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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Jim Harris <jim.harris@samsung.com>,
	"bhelgaas@google.com" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ben@nvidia.com" <ben@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: Locking between vfio hot-remove and pci sysfs sriov_numvfs
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2023 15:43:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231208194344.GT2692119@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231208111215.5a47090e.alex.williamson@redhat.com>

On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 11:12:15AM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:

> > > > avoided. But in that case RDMA knows the BAR memory is used only for
> > > > doorbell write so this is a reasonable thing to do.  
> > > 
> > > Yeah, this is exactly what SPDK (and DPDK) does today.  
> > 
> > To be clear, I mean we did it in the kernel.
> > 
> > When the device driver is removed we zap all the VMAs and install a
> > fault handler that installs the dummy page instead of SIGBUS
> > 
> > The application doesn't do anything, and this is how SPDK already will
> > be supporting device hot unplug of the RDMA drivers.
> 
> But I think you can only do that in the kernel because you understand
> the device uses those pages for doorbells and it's not a general
> purpose solution, right?
> 
> Perhaps a variant driver could do something similar for NVMe devices
> doorbell pages, but a device agnostic driver like vfio-pci would need
> to SIGBUS on access or else we risk significant data integrity issues.
> Thanks,

Yes, basically.

Might be interesting to consider having a VFIO FEATURE flag to opt
into SIGBUS or dummy page, perhaps even on a VMA by VMA basis.

Jason

      reply	other threads:[~2023-12-08 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20231207223824uscas1p27dd91f0af56cda282cd28046cc981fe9@uscas1p2.samsung.com>
2023-12-07 22:38 ` Locking between vfio hot-remove and pci sysfs sriov_numvfs Jim Harris
2023-12-07 23:21   ` Alex Williamson
2023-12-07 23:48     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-08 17:07       ` Jim Harris
2023-12-08 19:41         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-08 20:09           ` Jim Harris
2023-12-10 19:05             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-11  7:20               ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-12-12 21:34                 ` Jim Harris
2023-12-13  6:55                   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-12-08 17:38       ` Jim Harris
2023-12-08 17:41         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-08 17:59           ` Jim Harris
2023-12-08 18:01             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-08 18:12               ` Alex Williamson
2023-12-08 19:43                 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]

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