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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] block/mq-deadline: Disable I/O prioritization in certain cases
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2023 16:56:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231213155606.GA8748@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZXiual-UkUY4OWY2@google.com>

On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 11:03:06AM -0800, Jaegeuk Kim wrote:
> As one of users of zoned devices, I disagree this is a broken model,

So you think that chasing potential for reordering all over the I/O
stack in perpetualality, including obscure error handling paths and
disabling features intentended to throttle and delay I/O (like
ioprio and cgroups) is not a broken model?

> it is essential to place the data per file to get better bandwidth. And for
> NAND-based storage, filesystem is the right place to deal with the more efficient
> garbage collecion based on the known data locations.

And that works perfectly fine match for zone append.

> That's why all the flash
> storage vendors adopted it in the JEDEC.

Everyone sucking up to Google to place their product in Android, yes..


> Agreed that zone append is nice, but
> IMO, it's not practical for production.

You've delivered exactly zero arguments for that.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-12-13 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-05  5:32 [PATCH 0/3] Improve mq-deadline I/O priority support Bart Van Assche
2023-12-05  5:32 ` [PATCH 1/3] block/mq-deadline: Use dd_rq_ioclass() instead of open-coding it Bart Van Assche
2023-12-06  2:35   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-12-11 16:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-05  5:32 ` [PATCH 2/3] block/mq-deadline: Introduce dd_bio_ioclass() Bart Van Assche
2023-12-06  2:35   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-12-11 16:55   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-18 17:35     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-05  5:32 ` [PATCH 3/3] block/mq-deadline: Disable I/O prioritization in certain cases Bart Van Assche
2023-12-06  2:42   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-12-06  3:24     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-08  0:03     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-08  3:37       ` Damien Le Moal
2023-12-08 18:40         ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-11  7:40           ` Damien Le Moal
2023-12-12 22:44             ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-12 23:52               ` Damien Le Moal
2023-12-13  1:02                 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-13  5:29                   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-12-11 16:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-11 17:20     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-12 15:40       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-11 22:40     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-12-12 15:41       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-12 17:15         ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-12 17:18           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-12 17:42             ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-12 17:48               ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-12 18:09                 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-12 18:13                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-12 18:19                     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-12 18:26                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-12 19:03                         ` Jaegeuk Kim
2023-12-12 23:44                           ` Damien Le Moal
2023-12-13 16:49                             ` Jaegeuk Kim
2023-12-13 22:55                               ` Damien Le Moal
2023-12-13 15:56                           ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2023-12-13 16:41                             ` Jaegeuk Kim
2023-12-14  8:57                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-14 17:22                                 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2023-12-15  1:12                                   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-12-15  2:03                                     ` Jaegeuk Kim
2023-12-15  2:20                                       ` Keith Busch
2023-12-15  4:49                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-14 19:32                                 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-14  0:08                     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-14  0:37                       ` Damien Le Moal
2023-12-14  8:51                         ` Christoph Hellwig

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