From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] bcachefs updates for 6.8
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:18:37 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <202401111613.781DFC8@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <zocgn7zzr4wo3egjnq2vpmh7kpuxcj7gvo3a5tlbidt6wdh4rs@2udxphdcgeug>
On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 07:05:06PM -0500, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 03:42:19PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 10:57:18PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 05:47:20PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > > No, because the whole idea of "let me mark something deprecated and
> > > > then not just remove it" is GARBAGE.
> > > >
> > > > If somebody wants to deprecate something, it is up to *them* to finish
> > > > the job. Not annoy thousands of other developers with idiotic
> > > > warnings.
> > >
> > > What would be nice is something that warned about _new_ uses being
> > > added. ie checkpatch. Let's at least not make the problem worse.
> >
> > For now, we've just kind of "dealt with it". For things that show up
> > with new -W options we've enlisted sfr to do the -next builds with it
> > explicitly added (but not to the tree) so he could generate nag emails
> > when new warnings appeared. That could happen if we added it to W=1
> > builds, or some other flag like REPORT_DEPRECATED=1.
> >
> > Another ugly idea would be to do a treewide replacement of "func" to
> > "func_deprecated", and make "func" just a wrapper for it that is marked
> > with __deprecated. Then only new instances would show up (assuming people
> > weren't trying to actively bypass the deprecation work by adding calls to
> > "func_deprecated"). :P Then the refactoring to replace "func_deprecated"
> > could happen a bit more easily.
> >
> > Most past deprecations have pretty narrow usage. This is not true with
> > the string functions, which is why it's more noticeable here. :P
>
> Before doing the renaming - why not just leave a kdoc comment that marks
> it as deprecated? Seems odd that checkpatch was patched, but I can't
> find anything marking it as deprecated when I cscope to it.
It doesn't explicitly say "deprecated", but this language has been in
the kdoc for a while now (not that people go read this often):
* Do not use this function. While FORTIFY_SOURCE tries to avoid
* over-reads when calculating strlen(@q), it is still possible.
* Prefer strscpy(), though note its different return values for
* detecting truncation.
But it's all fine -- we're about to wipe out strlcpy for v6.8. Once the
drivers-core and drm-misc-next trees land, (and the bcachefs patch[1])
we'll be at 0 users. :)
-Kees
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240110235438.work.385-kees@kernel.org/
--
Kees Cook
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-12 0:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-10 19:36 [GIT PULL] bcachefs updates for 6.8 Kent Overstreet
2024-01-10 23:48 ` Kees Cook
2024-01-11 0:04 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-11 0:39 ` Kees Cook
2024-01-11 0:58 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-11 1:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-11 22:57 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-11 23:42 ` Kees Cook
2024-01-11 23:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-12 0:05 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-12 0:18 ` Kees Cook [this message]
2024-01-11 15:35 ` Mark Brown
2024-01-11 17:38 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-11 21:47 ` Mark Brown
2024-01-12 1:10 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-12 11:11 ` Neal Gompa
2024-01-12 18:22 ` Mark Brown
2024-01-15 18:42 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-15 20:13 ` Greg KH
2024-01-17 4:41 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-17 5:31 ` Greg KH
2024-01-17 5:54 ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-01-17 13:03 ` James Bottomley
2024-01-17 18:19 ` Mark Brown
2024-01-21 3:24 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-25 21:46 ` Mark Brown
2024-01-18 2:49 ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-01-21 12:20 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-24 5:52 ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-01-18 5:35 ` Randy Dunlap
2024-01-21 2:49 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-17 17:33 ` Mark Brown
2024-01-11 2:23 ` pr-tracker-bot
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