From: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
Crutcher Dunnavant <crutcher+kernel@datastacks.com>,
Juergen Quade <quade@hsnr.de>,
David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/1] lib/vsprintf: Implement spprintf() to catch truncated strings
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 12:30:04 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240201123004.GA938078@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZbuFSIIGbfhXeP92@smile.fi.intel.com>
On Thu, 01 Feb 2024, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 04:09:53PM +0000, Lee Jones wrote:
> > There is an ongoing effort to replace the use of {v}snprintf() variants
> > with safer alternatives - for a more in depth view, see Jon's write-up
> > on LWN [0] and/or Alex's on the Kernel Self Protection Project [1].
> >
> > Whist executing the task, it quickly became apparent that the initial
> > thought of simply s/snprintf/scnprintf/ wasn't going to be adequate for
> > a number of cases. Specifically ones where the caller needs to know
> > whether the given string ends up being truncated. This is where
> > spprintf() comes in, since it takes the best parts of both of the
> > aforementioned variants. It has the testability of truncation of
> > snprintf() and returns the number of Bytes *actually* written, similar
> > to scnprintf(), making it a very programmer friendly alternative.
> >
> > Here's some examples to show the differences:
> >
> > Success: No truncation - all 9 Bytes successfully written to the buffer
> >
> > ret = snprintf (buf, 10, "%s", "123456789"); // ret = 9
> > ret = scnprintf(buf, 10, "%s", "123456789"); // ret = 9
> > ret = spprintf (buf, 10, "%s", "123456789"); // ret = 9
> >
> > Failure: Truncation - only 9 of 10 Bytes written; '-' is truncated
> >
> > ret = snprintf (buf, 10, "%s", "123456789---"); // ret = 12
> >
> > Reports: "12 Bytes would have been written if buf was large enough"
> > Issue: Too easy for programmers to assume ret is Bytes written
> >
> > ret = scnprintf(buf, 10, "%s", "123456789---"); // ret = 9
> >
> > Reports: "9 Bytes actually written"
> > Issue: Not testable - returns 9 on success AND failure (see above)
> >
> > ret = spprintf (buf, 10, "%s", "123456789---"); // ret = 10
> >
> > Reports: "Data provided is too large to fit in the buffer"
> > Issue: No tangible impact: No way to tell how much data was lost
> >
> > Since spprintf() only reports the total size of the buffer, it's easy to
> > test if they buffer overflowed since if we include the compulsory '\0',
> > only 9 Bytes additional Bytes can fit, so the return of 10 informs the
> > caller of an overflow. Also, if the return data is plugged straight
> > into an additional call to spprintf() after the occurrence of an
> > overflow, no out-of-bounds will occur:
> >
> > int size = 10;
> > char buf[size];
> > char *b = buf;
> >
> > ret = spprintf(b, size, "1234");
> > size -= ret;
> > b += ret;
> > // ret = 4 size = 6 buf = "1234\0"
> >
> > ret = spprintf(b, size, "5678");
> > size -= ret;
> > b += ret;
> > // ret = 4 size = 2 buf = "12345678\0"
> >
> > ret = spprintf(b, size, "9***");
> > size -= ret;
> > b += ret;
> > // ret = 2 size = 0 buf = "123456789\0"
> >
> > Since size is now 0, further calls result in no changes of state.
> >
> > ret = spprintf(b, size, "----");
> > size -= ret;
> > b += ret;
> > // ret = 0 size = 0 buf = "123456789\0"
>
> > [0] https://lwn.net/Articles/69419/
> > [1] https://github.com/KSPP/linux/issues/105
>
> Link: ... [0]
> Link: ... [1]
OOI, what does that do?
Does tooling pick-up on them?
These links are for humans.
Is there documentation I can go look at?
> > Signed-off-by: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
>
> ...
>
> I'm a bit late in this discussion, but the commit message doesn't spit a single
> word on why seq_buf() approach can't be used in those cases?
When I can carve out a little more free time, investigating seq_buf() is
the next step.
--
Lee Jones [李琼斯]
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Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-30 16:09 [PATCH v3 1/1] lib/vsprintf: Implement spprintf() to catch truncated strings Lee Jones
2024-02-01 11:49 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-02-01 12:30 ` Lee Jones [this message]
2024-02-01 13:25 ` Andy Shevchenko
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