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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>
Cc: Sweet Tea Dorminy <sweettea-kernel@dorminy.me>,
	corbet@lwn.net, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chris Mason <clm@meta.com>, David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	jbacik@toxicpanda.com, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] add physical_length field to fiemap extents
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 20:35:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240312033513.GG1182@sol.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D8407E1D-F188-4115-A963-9EFBB515C45D@dilger.ca>

On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 06:22:02PM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On Mar 8, 2024, at 11:03 AM, Sweet Tea Dorminy <sweettea-kernel@dorminy.me> wrote:
> > 
> > Some filesystems support compressed extents which have a larger logical
> > size than physical, and for those filesystems, it can be useful for
> > userspace to know how much space those extents actually use. For
> > instance, the compsize [1] tool for btrfs currently uses btrfs-internal,
> > root-only ioctl to find the actual disk space used by a file; it would
> > be better and more useful for this information to require fewer
> > privileges and to be usable on more filesystems. Therefore, use one of
> > the padding u64s in the fiemap extent structure to return the actual
> > physical length; and, for now, return this as equal to the logical
> > length.
> 
> Thank you for working on this patch.  Note that there was a patch from
> David Sterba and a lengthy discussion about exactly this functionality
> several years ago.  If you haven't already read the details, it would be
> useful to do so. I think the thread had mostly come to good conclusions,
> but the patch never made it into the kernel.
> 
> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/linux-ext4/patch/4f8d5dc5b51a43efaf16c39398c23a6276e40a30.1386778303.git.dsterba@suse.cz/
> 
> One of those conclusions was that the kernel should always fill in the
> fe_physical_length field in the returned extent, and set a flag:
> 
> #define FIEMAP_EXTENT_PHYS_LENGTH      0x00000010
> 
> to indicate to userspace that the physical length field is valid.
> 
> There should also be a separate flag for extents that are compressed:
> 
> #define FIEMAP_EXTENT_DATA_COMPRESSED  0x00000040
> 
> Rename fe_length to fe_logical_length and #define fe_length fe_logical_length
> so that it is more clear which field is which in the data structure, but
> does not break compatibility.
> 
> I think this patch gets most of this right, except the presence of the
> flags to indicate the PHYS_LENGTH and DATA_COMPRESSED state in the extent.
> 
> Cheers, Andreas

Thanks for resurrecting this.  Andreas's suggestions sound good to me.  And yes,
please try to search for any past discussions on this topic.

It may be a good idea to Cc the f2fs mailing list
(linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net), since this will be useful for f2fs
too, since f2fs supports compression.

One use case is that this will make testing the combination of
compression+encryption (e.g. as xfstest f2fs/002 tries to do) easier.

- Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-12  3:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-08 18:03 [PATCH 0/3] fiemap extension to add physical extent length Sweet Tea Dorminy
2024-03-08 18:03 ` [PATCH 1/3] fs: add physical_length field to fiemap extents Sweet Tea Dorminy
2024-03-12  0:22   ` [PATCH 1/3] " Andreas Dilger
2024-03-12  3:35     ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2024-03-13 15:05     ` Sweet Tea Dorminy
2024-03-08 18:03 ` [PATCH 2/3] fs: update fiemap_fill_next_extent() signature Sweet Tea Dorminy
2024-03-08 18:03 ` [PATCH 3/3] btrfs: fiemap: return extent physical size Sweet Tea Dorminy
2024-03-15  3:03 ` [PATCH 0/3] fiemap extension to add physical extent length Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-21 18:58   ` David Sterba
2024-04-09 19:57     ` Andreas Dilger

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