From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Edward Cree <ecree.xilinx@gmail.com>,
David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Saeed Mahameed <saeed@kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>,
Leonid Bloch <lbloch@nvidia.com>,
Itay Avraham <itayavr@nvidia.com>,
Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
Aron Silverton <aron.silverton@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Andy Gospodarek <andrew.gospodarek@broadcom.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 0/5] mlx5 ConnectX control misc driver
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 12:53:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240404125339.14695f27@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240404183305.GM1723999@nvidia.com>
On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 15:33:05 -0300 Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> Uh no, mlx5 already has an excellent in-tree driver, thank you very
> much. The configuration is not changing the driver, it is changing the
> device.
>
> Consider, I can ship unique devices pre-configured for each site's
> special needs. They still work with the same inbox driver.
>
> In fact that happens already for certain large customers. It is why
> Jakub recently pointed out that Meta doesn't need any
> provisioning/mlx5ctl/misc driver. They just buy different devices than
> everyone else.
> Further it is really rude and inappropriate to say that some customers
> should not be able to enjoy intree drivers because of your aesthetic
> opinion of hacks in a device's design.
To my knowledge the "customizations" are mostly around fitting into OCP
servers. Those unfamiliar with how hyperscalers operate can mentally
replace $hyperscaler with HP or Dell in your message. Minus all the
proprietary OOB management stuff those guys also provide.
> Overreach. The job of the kernel maintainer is to review the driver
> software, not the device design.
Agreed. I rarely if ever comment on what I think about device design.
Discussion is about mlx5ctrl not "the device" as much as you'd like
to equate the two.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-04 19:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-07 7:24 [PATCH V4 0/5] mlx5 ConnectX control misc driver Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-07 7:24 ` [PATCH V4 1/5] mlx5: Add aux dev for ctl interface Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-07 7:24 ` [PATCH V4 2/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add mlx5ctl misc driver Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-29 11:44 ` Vegard Nossum
2024-03-02 8:04 ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-07 7:24 ` [PATCH V4 3/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add info ioctl Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-29 11:47 ` Vegard Nossum
2024-03-02 8:03 ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-07 7:24 ` [PATCH V4 4/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add command rpc ioctl Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-29 11:49 ` Vegard Nossum
2024-03-02 7:48 ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-07 7:24 ` [PATCH V4 5/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add umem reg/unreg ioctl Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-29 11:51 ` Vegard Nossum
2024-02-07 15:03 ` [PATCH V4 0/5] mlx5 ConnectX control misc driver Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-08 5:03 ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-09 2:15 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-09 6:55 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-09 22:42 ` David Ahern
2024-02-09 22:58 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-10 5:01 ` David Ahern
2024-02-11 11:03 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-02-11 17:01 ` David Ahern
2024-02-14 20:31 ` David Ahern
2024-02-15 0:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-02-10 1:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-02-11 16:59 ` David Ahern
2024-02-14 8:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-14 15:48 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-15 7:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-15 12:08 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-16 1:00 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-16 15:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-02-15 13:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-02-16 1:10 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-16 4:20 ` David Ahern
2024-02-16 19:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-02-14 16:17 ` Andy Gospodarek
2024-02-14 17:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-02-14 18:11 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-14 18:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-02-16 1:40 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-16 14:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-04 16:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-22 3:23 ` David Ahern
2024-03-22 7:32 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-03-22 15:24 ` David Ahern
2024-03-22 15:46 ` Andy Gospodarek
2024-03-22 20:58 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-03-22 21:18 ` David Ahern
2024-03-22 22:40 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-03-26 14:57 ` David Ahern
2024-04-01 12:30 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-01 14:50 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-01 18:10 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-01 19:04 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-02 19:20 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-02 18:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-02 21:36 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-02 22:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-02 23:21 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-03 0:15 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-03 6:57 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-02 16:32 ` Edward Cree
2024-04-02 18:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-03 19:28 ` David Ahern
2024-04-04 17:35 ` Edward Cree
2024-04-04 18:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-04 19:31 ` Edward Cree
2024-04-05 11:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-04 19:53 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2024-04-04 20:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-04 21:34 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-05 11:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-05 15:38 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-05 17:48 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-08 16:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-08 16:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-04 18:44 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-04 20:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-04 20:53 ` Edward Cree
2024-04-05 11:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-02 18:48 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-03 12:26 ` Edward Cree
2024-04-03 19:00 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-03 19:31 ` David Ahern
2024-04-04 0:01 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-04 3:57 ` David Ahern
2024-04-04 12:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-04 14:48 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-04 17:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-04 18:06 ` Edward Cree
2024-04-04 18:35 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-04 19:46 ` Edward Cree
2024-04-05 10:41 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-08 8:02 ` Przemek Kitszel
2024-03-22 21:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-22 22:29 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-03-23 1:27 ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-03-23 1:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-22 14:53 ` Aron Silverton
2024-04-30 1:36 ` David Ahern
2024-04-30 7:09 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
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