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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Yan-Jie Wang <yanjiewtw@gmail.com>
Cc: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	bristot@redhat.com, vschneid@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kprateek.nayak@amd.com,
	wuyun.abel@bytedance.com, tglx@linutronix.de, efault@gmx.de,
	yu.chen.surf@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 08/10] sched/fair: Implement delayed dequeue
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 12:25:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240425102516.GD21980@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c3611c0a-007f-4e09-b92d-3752438e653e@gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 09:32:23AM +0800, Yan-Jie Wang wrote:
> I have an alternative approach to delayed-dequeue inspired by the original
> CFS implementation.
> 
> The idea is to keep the task's vruntime when it goes to sleep.
> When the task is woken up, see if the lag is positive at the woken time, if
> it is the case, clamp it to 0 by setting vruntime to avg_vruntime().

Problem is that avg_vruntime() can go backwards, eg by dequeueing a
negative lag task. This gets really hard to argue about real quick.

Keeping the task competing (delaying the dequeue) is by far the simplest
solution -- conceptually.

The code just became a total mess because of cgroups :/

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-25 10:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-05 10:27 [RFC][PATCH 00/10] sched/fair: Complete EEVDF Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-05 10:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/10] sched/eevdf: Add feature comments Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-05 10:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/10] sched/eevdf: Remove min_vruntime_copy Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-05 10:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/10] sched/fair: Cleanup pick_task_fair() vs throttle Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-05 21:11   ` Benjamin Segall
2024-04-05 10:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/10] sched/fair: Cleanup pick_task_fair()s curr Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-05 10:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/10] sched/fair: Unify pick_{,next_}_task_fair() Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-06  2:20   ` Mike Galbraith
2024-04-05 10:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/10] sched: Allow sched_class::dequeue_task() to fail Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-05 10:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/10] sched/fair: Re-organize dequeue_task_fair() Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-05 10:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/10] sched/fair: Implement delayed dequeue Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-06  9:23   ` Chen Yu
2024-04-08  9:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-11  1:32       ` Yan-Jie Wang
2024-04-25 10:25         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2024-04-12 10:42   ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-04-15 10:56     ` Mike Galbraith
2024-04-16  3:18       ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-04-16  5:36         ` Mike Galbraith
2024-04-18 16:24           ` Mike Galbraith
2024-04-18 17:08             ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-04-24 15:20             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-25 11:28             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-26 10:56               ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-26 11:16                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-26 16:03                   ` Mike Galbraith
2024-04-27  6:42                     ` Mike Galbraith
2024-04-28 16:32                       ` Mike Galbraith
2024-04-29 12:14                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-15 17:07   ` Luis Machado
2024-04-24 15:15     ` Luis Machado
2024-04-25 10:42       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-25 11:49         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-26  9:32           ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-26  9:36             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-26 10:16             ` Luis Machado
2024-04-29 14:33             ` Luis Machado
2024-05-02 10:26               ` Luis Machado
2024-05-10 14:49                 ` Luis Machado
2024-05-15  9:36                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-15 11:48                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-15 18:03                       ` Mike Galbraith
2024-05-20 15:20                       ` Luis Machado
2024-05-29 22:50                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-03 19:30                   ` Luis Machado
2024-06-04 10:11                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-04 13:59                       ` Hongyan Xia
2024-06-04 14:23                       ` Luis Machado
2024-06-04 14:49                         ` Hongyan Xia
2024-06-04 19:12                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-05  7:22                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-05  9:14                             ` Luis Machado
2024-06-05  9:42                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-12 15:08                                 ` Luis Machado
2024-05-23  8:45               ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-23  9:06                 ` Luis Machado
2024-05-23  9:33                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-03 15:57                     ` Hongyan Xia
2024-04-26 10:15         ` Luis Machado
2024-04-20  5:57   ` Mike Galbraith
2024-04-22 13:13   ` Tobias Huschle
     [not found]   ` <CA44DAC1-B01A-4208-B9A0-D824E8178974@oracle.com>
2024-07-02 13:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-05 10:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/10] sched/eevdf: Allow shorter slices to wakeup-preempt Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-05 10:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/10] sched/eevdf: Use sched_attr::sched_runtime to set request/slice suggestion Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-06  8:16   ` Hillf Danton
2024-05-07  5:34   ` Mike Galbraith
2024-05-15 10:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-07 15:15   ` Chen Yu
2024-05-08 13:52     ` Mike Galbraith
2024-05-09  3:48       ` Chen Yu
2024-05-09  5:00         ` Mike Galbraith
2024-05-13  4:07     ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-05-14  9:18       ` Chen Yu
2024-05-14 15:23         ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-05-14 16:15           ` Chen Yu
2024-05-22 14:48           ` Chen Yu
2024-05-27 10:11 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/10] sched/fair: Complete EEVDF K Prateek Nayak

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