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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>
Cc: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
	Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>,
	"ksummit@lists.linux.dev" <ksummit@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] [4/4] Discuss how to better prevent backports of commits that turn out to cause regressions
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 16:02:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2024061305-swimming-politely-30f3@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dea93a79fc457d8a5424a18f8c138a4f75def064.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 09:56:56AM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Thu, 2024-06-13 at 09:06 -0400, Sasha Levin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 07:58:58AM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2024-06-13 at 10:42 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> > > > The scenario shown at the start of the thread illustrates a
> > > > problem I see frequently: commits with a Fixes: tag end up in new
> > > > to stable series releases just days after being mainlined and
> > > > cause regressions -- just like they do in mainline, which just
> > > > was not known yet at the time of backporting. This happens
> > > > extremely often right after merge windows when huge piles of
> > > > changes are backported to the stable trees each cycle shortly
> > > > after -rc1 is out (which even some kernel developers apparently
> > > > are somewhat afraid to test from what I've
> > > > seen).
> > > 
> > > I haven't really observed this for curated fixes.  For most
> > > subsystems, patches with Fixes tags that are cc'd to stable tend to
> > > go steadily outside the merge window.  Obviously a few arrive
> > > within it, but usually at roughly the rate they arrive outside it.
> > > 
> > > What I observe in the merge window is huge piles of patches go into
> > > stable *without* a cc:stable tag from the autosel machinery (and
> > > quite a few even without fixes: tags).
> > 
> > Could you provide a concrete example? This shouldn't happen.
> 
> This one has no fixes or cc stable:
> 
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=37f1663c91934f664fb850306708094a324c227c
> 
> Yet here it is backported:
> 
> Message-id: 20240603121056.1837607-1-sashal@kernel.org
> 
> (I can't give a lore reference because conveniently it was a personal
> cc with no tracked mailing list).
> 
> I picked that one because we discovered a bug with the strlcpy to
> strscpy conversions in SCSI which it looks like this backport has.

It says, in the commit message:
	 Stable-dep-of: c3408c4ae041 ("scsi: qla2xxx: Avoid possible run-time warning with long model_num")

That is why it was backported.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-13 14:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-13  8:22 [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] [0/4] Common scenario for four proposals regarding regressions Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-06-13  8:26 ` [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] [1/4] Create written down guidelines for handling regressions Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-09-12 13:33   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-06-13  8:32 ` [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] [2/4] Ensure recent mainline regression are fixed in latest stable series Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-06-13 11:02   ` Johannes Berg
2024-06-13 11:21     ` Greg KH
2024-06-13 13:18       ` Sasha Levin
2024-06-13 11:17   ` Jiri Kosina
2024-06-13 11:28   ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-06-14  0:50     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-14 14:01   ` Mark Brown
2024-06-14 14:32     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-06-13  8:34 ` [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] [3/4] Elevate handling of regressions that made it to releases deemed for end users Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-06-13 11:34   ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-06-13 11:39     ` Jiri Kosina
2024-06-14 14:10       ` Mark Brown
2024-06-18 12:58         ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-06-19 20:25           ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-06-20 10:47             ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-06-13 15:56     ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-18 12:24     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-06-20 13:20       ` Jani Nikula
2024-06-20 13:35         ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-06-20 14:16           ` Mark Brown
2024-06-21  6:47           ` Jiri Kosina
2024-06-21 10:19             ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-06-13  8:42 ` [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] [4/4] Discuss how to better prevent backports of commits that turn out to cause regressions Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-06-13  9:59   ` Jan Kara
2024-06-13 10:18     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-06-13 14:08     ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2024-06-14  9:19       ` Lee Jones
2024-06-14  9:24         ` Lee Jones
2024-06-14 12:27         ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2024-06-14 14:26           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2024-06-14 14:36             ` Lee Jones
2024-06-14 14:29       ` Michael Ellerman
2024-06-14 14:38         ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2024-06-14 14:44           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-06-14 15:08           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-06-15 11:29             ` Michael Ellerman
2024-06-17 10:15             ` Jani Nikula
2024-06-17 12:42               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-06-14 15:45           ` Mark Brown
2024-06-14 14:43         ` Mark Brown
2024-06-14 14:51           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2024-06-14 15:42             ` Mark Brown
2024-06-14 14:43         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-14 14:57           ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-06-16  1:13         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-16  3:28           ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-16  4:59             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-16  8:22               ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-06-16  9:05               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-06-16 15:07               ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-17 13:48               ` Dan Carpenter
2024-06-17 15:23                 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-06-17 14:39               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2024-06-17 16:04                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-17 16:06                   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2024-06-17 16:14                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-06-17 16:18                       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2024-06-17 17:11                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-06-18 12:05                 ` Michael Ellerman
2024-06-16  7:26           ` Takashi Iwai
2024-06-16  8:10           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-06-16 11:31             ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-06-16 11:39             ` Takashi Iwai
2024-06-16 16:40             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-16  8:31           ` Jiri Kosina
2024-06-16  8:54             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-06-13 19:39     ` Dan Carpenter
2024-06-14  1:00       ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-13 11:58   ` James Bottomley
2024-06-13 13:06     ` Sasha Levin
2024-06-13 13:56       ` James Bottomley
2024-06-13 14:02         ` Greg KH [this message]
2024-06-13 15:11           ` James Bottomley
2024-06-13 16:27             ` Greg KH
2024-06-14 18:47             ` Sasha Levin
2024-06-17 10:59               ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-06-13 18:08         ` Sasha Levin
2024-06-13 13:45     ` Greg KH
2024-06-13 13:40   ` Sasha Levin
2024-06-18 13:12     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-06-13 14:28   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-06-13 18:14     ` Sasha Levin
2024-06-14 14:41       ` Jan Kara
2024-06-14 15:03         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-06-14 17:46           ` Sasha Levin
2024-06-18 14:43 ` [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] [0/4] Common scenario for four proposals regarding regressions James Bottomley
2024-06-18 15:50   ` Mark Brown
2024-06-20 10:32   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-06-20 12:57     ` James Bottomley
2024-06-20 13:55       ` Mark Brown
2024-06-20 14:01         ` James Bottomley
2024-06-20 14:42           ` Mark Brown
2024-06-20 16:02             ` James Bottomley
2024-06-20 17:15               ` Mark Brown
2024-06-20 23:25               ` Sasha Levin
2024-06-21  6:33                 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
     [not found]               ` <20240625175131.672d14a4@rorschach.local.home>
2024-06-26  7:36                 ` Greg KH
2024-06-26 18:32                   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-26 19:05                     ` James Bottomley
2024-07-25 10:14                   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-07-25 13:14                     ` Greg KH
2024-06-20 16:59       ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-06-20 23:18         ` Sasha Levin

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