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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: alexjlzheng@gmail.com, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, brauner@kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk,
	tandersen@netflix.com, willy@infradead.org, mjguzik@gmail.com,
	alexjlzheng@tencent.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: optimize the redundant loop of mm_update_next_owner()
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 19:30:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240620172958.GA2058@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240620152744.4038983-1-alexjlzheng@tencent.com>

Can't review, I forgot everything about mm_update_next_owner().
So I am sorry for the noise I am going to add, feel free to ignore.
Just in case, I see nothing wrong in this patch.

On 06/20, alexjlzheng@gmail.com wrote:
>
> When mm_update_next_owner() is racing with swapoff (try_to_unuse()) or /proc or
> ptrace or page migration (get_task_mm()), it is impossible to find an
> appropriate task_struct in the loop whose mm_struct is the same as the target
> mm_struct.
>
> If the above race condition is combined with the stress-ng-zombie and
> stress-ng-dup tests, such a long loop can easily cause a Hard Lockup in
> write_lock_irq() for tasklist_lock.
>
> Recognize this situation in advance and exit early.

But this patch won't help if (say) ptrace_access_vm() sleeps while
for_each_process() tries to find another owner, right?

> @@ -484,6 +484,8 @@ void mm_update_next_owner(struct mm_struct *mm)
>  	 * Search through everything else, we should not get here often.
>  	 */
>  	for_each_process(g) {
> +		if (atomic_read(&mm->mm_users) <= 1)
> +			break;

I think this deserves a comment to explain that this is optimization
for the case we race with the pending mmput(). mm_update_next_owner()
checks mm_users at the start.

And. Can we drop tasklist and use rcu_read_lock() before for_each_process?
Yes, this will probably need more changes even if possible...


Or even better. Can't we finally kill mm_update_next_owner() and turn the
ugly mm->owner into mm->mem_cgroup ?

Michal, Eric, iirc you had the patch(es) which do this?

Oleg.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-20 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-20 15:27 [PATCH v2] mm: optimize the redundant loop of mm_update_next_owner() alexjlzheng
2024-06-20 17:30 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2024-06-21  8:50   ` Michal Hocko
2024-06-25 22:21     ` Andrew Morton
2024-06-26  6:43     ` Jinliang Zheng
2024-06-26 15:23     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-27  7:44 ` Michal Hocko

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