From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Heng Qi <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] virtio-net: clarify coalescing parameters settings
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 03:26:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240625032237-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1718591738.670476-6-hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>
On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 10:35:38AM +0800, Heng Qi wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 19:03:11 -0400, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 12:47:02PM +0800, Heng Qi wrote:
> > > The device can set any initial coalescing parameters (0 or non-zero)
> > > for the receive/send queue before the setting command is executed,
> > > not just 0, enhancing device performance even without DIM enabled.
> > >
> > > So we need to clarify descriptions that don't fit the behavior.
> > >
> > > Fixes: https://github.com/oasis-tcs/virtio-spec/issues/194
> > > Suggested-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Heng Qi <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>
> > > Reviewed-by: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
> > > Reviewed-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > > v4->v5:
> > > - Add RB tags from Parav and Jason. Thanks!
> > >
> > > v3->v4:
> > > - Doesn't force the device to remember more stuff. @Parav
> > >
> > > v2->v3:
> > > - Clarify description to be more generic. @Parav
> > >
> > > v1->v2:
> > > - Update description. @Jason
> > >
> > > device-types/net/description.tex | 14 +++++++++++---
> > > 1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/device-types/net/description.tex b/device-types/net/description.tex
> > > index 61cce1f..00c1b36 100644
> > > --- a/device-types/net/description.tex
> > > +++ b/device-types/net/description.tex
> > > @@ -1803,6 +1803,14 @@ \subsubsection{Control Virtqueue}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Devi
> > > for an enabled transmit/receive virtqueue whose index is \field{vq_index}.
> > > \end{enumerate}
> > >
> > > +If the VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTF_COAL or VIRTIO_NET_F_VQ_NOTF_COAL feature is negotiated,
> > > +the device may apply any coalescing parameters to each transmit/receive virtqueue
> > > +before the driver successfully performs one of the VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL set commands.
> >
> > may outside of conformance section, not good.
>
> This is outside of the conformance section. Do you want inside?
needs to be rephrased to avoid using reserved keywords.
> >
> > > +
> > > +The driver can query the coalescing parameters of any enabled transmit/receive
> > > +virtqueue using the VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_GET command, before or after any
> > > +VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL set command is done.
> > > +
> >
> > Vague. There are just 3 set commands ust list them.
> >
> > > The device may generate notifications more or less frequently than specified by set commands of the VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL class.
> > >
> > > If coalescing parameters are being set, the device applies the last coalescing parameters set for a
> >
> > This needs more work but I guess we can skip the above part.
> >
> > > @@ -1885,17 +1893,17 @@ \subsubsection{Control Virtqueue}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Devi
> > > VIRTIO_NET_ERR if the designated virtqueue is not an enabled transmit or receive virtqueue.
> > >
> > > Upon disabling and re-enabling a transmit virtqueue, the device MUST set the coalescing parameters of the virtqueue
> > > -to those configured through the VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_TX_SET command, or, if the driver did not set any TX coalescing parameters, to 0.
> > > +to those configured through the VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_TX_SET command, or, if the driver did not set any TX coalescing parameters, the device MAY initialize them to any values.
> > >
> >
> > If device does not initialize them then what?
>
> The device's customized behavior, at least, does not conform to the spec.
Then why do you say "may"?
> > Actually something like
> > 0 -> the default TX coalescing parameters chosen by the device?
>
> Deefault coalescing parameters should also have a concrete "value".
and I just proposed how to say this in a clear way.
> >
> >
> > > Upon disabling and re-enabling a receive virtqueue, the device MUST set the coalescing parameters of the virtqueue
> > > -to those configured through the VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_RX_SET command, or, if the driver did not set any RX coalescing parameters, to 0.
> > > +to those configured through the VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_RX_SET command, or, if the driver did not set any RX coalescing parameters, the device MAY initialize them to any values.
> > >
> > > The behavior of the device in response to set commands of the VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL class is best-effort:
> > > the device MAY generate notifications more or less frequently than specified.
> > >
> > > A device SHOULD NOT send used buffer notifications to the driver if the notifications are suppressed, even if the notification conditions are met.
> > >
> > > -Upon reset, a device MUST initialize all coalescing parameters to 0.
> > > +Upon reset, a device MAY set any coalescing parameters for all transmit and receive virtqueues.
> >
> > Confusing.
> > This seems to allow any vq to have a different set of parameters.
>
> YES.
>
> > Now if driver calls VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_RX_SET then what?
> >
>
> Then the coalescing parameters of all RX queues are updated to the values
> set by VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_RX_SET, and the coalescing parameters of all
> TX queues continue to retain the previous values.
>
> Thanks.
It's not at all nice that there's apparently no way for driver to
get back to the default values.
> >
> > >
> > > \paragraph{Device Statistics}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Device Operation / Control Virtqueue / Device Statistics}
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > 2.32.0.3.g01195cf9f
> >
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-28 4:47 [PATCH v5] virtio-net: clarify coalescing parameters settings Heng Qi
2024-05-28 4:50 ` Heng Qi
2024-05-31 6:36 ` Heng Qi
2024-05-31 9:39 ` Cornelia Huck
2024-06-07 20:02 ` Halil Pasic
2024-06-08 2:34 ` Heng Qi
2024-06-10 12:46 ` Halil Pasic
2024-06-10 13:35 ` Heng Qi
2024-06-10 14:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-10 15:12 ` Parav Pandit
2024-06-11 14:04 ` Cornelia Huck
2024-06-10 20:19 ` Halil Pasic
2024-06-11 10:40 ` Heng Qi
2024-06-11 16:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-11 17:43 ` Parav Pandit
2024-06-13 6:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-17 2:27 ` Heng Qi
2024-06-17 23:31 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-06-20 7:40 ` Heng Qi
2024-06-21 1:21 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-06-21 3:24 ` Heng Qi
2024-06-21 23:46 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-06-22 1:34 ` Heng Qi
2024-06-25 4:51 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-06-25 5:56 ` Parav Pandit
2024-06-26 1:14 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-06-27 10:37 ` Halil Pasic
2024-06-27 11:27 ` Parav Pandit
2024-06-27 12:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-27 12:45 ` Parav Pandit
2024-06-27 12:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-27 13:03 ` Parav Pandit
2024-06-27 14:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-27 17:27 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-06-27 17:14 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-06-27 22:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-28 6:56 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-06-28 8:23 ` Jason Wang
2024-06-28 19:31 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-06-30 17:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-03 6:09 ` Jason Wang
2024-07-02 20:37 ` Halil Pasic
2024-07-02 21:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-03 5:01 ` Jason Wang
2024-06-29 6:47 ` Halil Pasic
2024-06-30 16:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-02 21:43 ` Halil Pasic
2024-06-27 12:13 ` Parav Pandit
2024-06-27 12:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-25 7:53 ` Jason Wang
2024-06-25 8:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-25 8:13 ` Jason Wang
2024-06-25 8:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-11 23:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-17 2:35 ` Heng Qi
2024-06-25 7:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
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