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From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: "Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>, "Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Joerg Roedel" <joro@8bytes.org>, "Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Keith Busch" <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	"Zeng, Oak" <oak.zeng@intel.com>,
	"Chaitanya Kulkarni" <kch@nvidia.com>,
	"Sagi Grimberg" <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Logan Gunthorpe" <logang@deltatee.com>,
	"Yishai Hadas" <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
	"Shameer Kolothum" <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	"Kevin Tian" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Marek Szyprowski" <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 00/18] Provide a new two step DMA API mapping API
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 16:18:39 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240704131839.GD95824@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240704074855.GA26913@lst.de>

On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 09:48:56AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 03, 2024 at 06:51:14PM +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > If we put aside this issue, do you think that the proposed API is the right one?
> 
> I haven't look at it in detail yet, but from a quick look there is a
> few things to note:
> 
> 
> 1) The amount of code needed in nvme worries me a bit.  Now NVMe a messy
> driver due to the stupid PRPs vs just using SGLs, but needing a fair
> amount of extra boilerplate code in drivers is a bit of a warning sign.
> I plan to look into this to see if I can help on improving it, but for
> that I need a working version first.

Chaitanya is working on this and I'll join him to help on next Sunday,
after I'll return to the office from my sick leave/

> 
> 
> 2) The amount of seemingly unrelated global headers pulled into other
> global headers.  Some of this might just be sloppiness, e.g. I can't
> see why dma-mapping.h would actually need iommu.h to start with,
> but pci.h in dma-map-ops.h is a no-go.

pci.h was pulled because I needed to call to pci_p2pdma_map_type()
in dma_can_use_iova().

> 
> 3) which brings me to real layering violations.  dev_is_untrusted and
> dev_use_swiotlb are DMA API internals, no way I'd ever want to expose
> them. dma-map-ops.h is a semi-internal header only for implementations
> of the dma ops (as very clearly documented at the top of that file),
> it must not be included by drivers.  Same for swiotlb.h.

These item shouldn't worry you and will be changed in the final version.
They are outcome of patch "RDMA/umem: Prevent UMEM ODP creation with SWIOTLB".
https://lore.kernel.org/all/d18c454636bf3cfdba9b66b7cc794d713eadc4a5.1719909395.git.leon@kernel.org/

All HMM users need such "prevention" so it will be moved to a common place.

> 
> Not quite as concerning, but doing an indirect call for each map
> through dma_map_ops in addition to the iommu ops is not every efficient.
> We've through for a while to allow direct calls to dma-iommu similar
> how we do direct calls to dma-direct from the core mapping.c code.
> This might be a good time to do that as a prep step for this work.

Sure, no problem, will start in parallel to work on this.

> 

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-04 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-02  9:09 [RFC PATCH v1 00/18] Provide a new two step DMA API mapping API Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/18] dma-mapping: query DMA memory type Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/18] dma-mapping: provide an interface to allocate IOVA Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/18] dma-mapping: check if IOVA can be used Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/18] dma-mapping: implement link range API Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/18] mm/hmm: let users to tag specific PFN with DMA mapped bit Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/18] dma-mapping: provide callbacks to link/unlink HMM PFNs to specific IOVA Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/18] iommu/dma: Provide an interface to allow preallocate IOVA Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/18] iommu/dma: Implement link/unlink ranges callbacks Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/18] RDMA/umem: Preallocate and cache IOVA for UMEM ODP Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/18] RDMA/umem: Store ODP access mask information in PFN Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/18] RDMA/core: Separate DMA mapping to caching IOVA and page linkage Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/18] RDMA/umem: Prevent UMEM ODP creation with SWIOTLB Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/18] vfio/mlx5: Explicitly use number of pages instead of allocated length Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/18] vfio/mlx5: Rewrite create mkey flow to allow better code reuse Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/18] vfio/mlx5: Explicitly store page list Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 16/18] vfio/mlx5: Convert vfio to use DMA link API Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 17/18] block: export helper to get segment max size Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-02  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v1 18/18] nvme-pci: use new dma API Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-04 15:23   ` Robin Murphy
2024-07-04 17:16     ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-05  5:58       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-05 18:48         ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-06  6:08           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-03  5:42 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/18] Provide a new two step DMA API mapping API Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-03 10:42   ` Zhu Yanjun
2024-07-03 10:52   ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-03 14:35     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-03 15:51       ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-04  7:48         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-04 13:18           ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2024-07-05  6:00             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-08 16:52           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-09  6:17             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-09 18:53               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-10  6:27                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-11 23:21                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-05 22:53       ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2024-07-06  6:26         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-07  9:16           ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-07 12:45         ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-05  6:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-07  9:45   ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-07-08 23:57   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-09  6:20     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-09 19:03       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-10  6:22         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-11 23:29           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-12  4:54             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-12 12:42               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-13  5:24                 ` Christoph Hellwig

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