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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	Madhu Chittim <madhu.chittim@intel.com>,
	Sridhar Samudrala <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Sunil Kovvuri Goutham <sgoutham@marvell.com>,
	Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/12] net-shapers: implement NL set and delete operations
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 08:39:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240801083924.708c00be@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <144865d1-d1ea-48b7-b4d6-18c4d30603a8@redhat.com>

On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 17:25:50 +0200 Paolo Abeni wrote:
> When deleting a queue-level shaper, the orchestrator is "returning" the 
> ownership of the queue from the container to the host. If the container 
> wants to move the queue around e.g. from:
> 
> q1 ----- \
> q2 - \SP1/ RR1
> q3 - /        \
>      q4 - \ RR2 -> RR(root)
>      q5 - /    /
>      q6 - \ RR3
>      q7 - /
> 
> to:
> 
> q1 ----- \
> q2 ----- RR1
> q3 ---- /   \
>      q4 - \ RR2 -> RR(root)
>      q5 - /    /
>      q6 - \ RR3
>      q7 - /
> 
> It can do it with a group() operation:
> 
> group(inputs:[q2,q3],output:[RR1])

Isn't that a bit odd? The container was not supposed to know / care
about RR1's existence. We achieve this with group() by implicitly
inheriting the egress node if all grouped entities shared one.

Delete IMO should act here like a "ungroup" operation, meaning that:
 1) we're deleting SP1, not q1, q2
 2) inputs go "downstream" instead getting ejected into global level

Also, in the first example from the cover letter we "set" a shaper on
the queue, it feels a little ambiguous whether "delete queue" is
purely clearing such per-queue shaping, or also has implications 
for the hierarchy.

Coincidentally, others may disagree, but I'd point to tests in patch 
8 for examples of how the thing works, instead the cover letter samples.

> That will implicitly also delete SP1.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-01 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-30 20:39 [PATCH v3 00/12] net: introduce TX H/W shaping API Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 01/12] tools: ynl: lift an assumption about spec file name Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 02/12] netlink: spec: add shaper YAML spec Paolo Abeni
2024-07-31 21:13   ` Donald Hunter
2024-08-01 14:31     ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-02 10:57       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-02 11:15       ` Donald Hunter
2024-08-05 14:35         ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-05 20:37           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-01 13:10   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-01 14:40     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-01 15:12     ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-02 10:49       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-05 15:11         ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-06  7:06           ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-12 14:58             ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-12 15:25               ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-12 16:50                 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-12 17:42                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13  5:38                     ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-13 14:12                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13 14:47                         ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-13 14:58                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13 15:31                             ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-13 15:43                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-14  8:56                           ` Donald Hunter
2024-08-13 17:12                 ` Donald Hunter
2024-08-14 14:21                   ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-15  9:07                     ` Donald Hunter
2024-08-02 11:19   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-02 11:26   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-02 16:04   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 03/12] net-shapers: implement NL get operation Paolo Abeni
2024-08-01 13:42   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-13 15:17     ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-14  8:37       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-16  8:52         ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-16  9:16           ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-19  9:33             ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-19 11:53               ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-19 16:52                 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-22 12:02                   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-22 14:41                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-22 20:30                       ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-22 22:56                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-23 11:50                           ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-23 12:58                             ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-23 13:36                               ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-23 14:23                                 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-26  9:31                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-27 14:37                                     ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-27 14:54                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-27 20:43                                         ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-27 21:03                                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-27 21:54                                             ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-28  6:40                                               ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-28 10:55                                                 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-28 13:02                                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-28 20:30                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-28 21:13                                                     ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-29 11:45                                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-01 15:09   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-02 11:53   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 04/12] net-shapers: implement NL set and delete operations Paolo Abeni
2024-08-01 15:00   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-01 15:25     ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-01 15:39       ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2024-08-02 16:15         ` Jiri Pirko
2024-08-02 22:01           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-05 15:23           ` Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 05/12] net-shapers: implement NL group operation Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 06/12] netlink: spec: add shaper introspection support Paolo Abeni
2024-08-02 11:21   ` Donald Hunter
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 07/12] net: shaper: implement " Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 08/12] testing: net-drv: add basic shaper test Paolo Abeni
2024-07-31  7:52   ` Paolo Abeni
2024-08-01  1:55     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-05 14:22       ` Simon Horman
2024-08-05 19:36         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-06 15:21           ` Simon Horman
2024-08-08 12:20             ` Simon Horman
2024-08-08 14:17               ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-08 14:34                 ` Simon Horman
2024-08-11 12:40                   ` Simon Horman
2024-08-12 15:31                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-12 16:03                 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 09/12] virtchnl: support queue rate limit and quanta size configuration Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 10/12] ice: Support VF " Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 11/12] iavf: Add net_shaper_ops support Paolo Abeni
2024-07-30 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 12/12] iavf: add support to exchange qos capabilities Paolo Abeni
2024-08-01 12:57 ` [PATCH v3 00/12] net: introduce TX H/W shaping API Jiri Pirko

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