From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
"joro@8bytes.org" <joro@8bytes.org>,
"robin.murphy@arm.com" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
"eric.auger@redhat.com" <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
"nicolinc@nvidia.com" <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com" <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>,
"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
"baolu.lu@linux.intel.com" <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
"Duan, Zhenzhong" <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com>,
"Pan, Jacob jun" <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] vfio-pci support pasid attach/detach
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 11:30:57 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240806143057.GO478300@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240730113517.27b06160.alex.williamson@redhat.com>
On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 11:35:17AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> Even if QEMU defines the layout for a device, there may be multiple
> versions of that device. For example, maybe we just add PASID now, but
> at some point we decide that we do want to replicate the PF serial
> number capability. At that point we have versions of the device which
> would need to be tied to versions of the machine and maybe also
> selected via a profile switch on the device command line.
This is the larger end state I see here.
When the admin asks to install a vPCI function into a VM the admin
would specify they want, say, 'virtio-net vPCI spec 1.0'.
The text of spec 1.0 would specify each and every bit of config space
and register layout. It would specify the content of the live
migration blobs, and an exact feature set/behaviors the device must
advertise.
Even if the device can do more, a combination of the VMM and the
variant PCI driver+device FW would make it do only what spec 1.0 says
it should do.
You can imagine there would be a range of these standards available,
and large sites have a high chance to have their own private forks.
This should be viewed as totally opposite the current VFIO behavior
that intends to reflect the exact device, as-is, into the VM. I think
we can reasonably have different approaches to each.
So, how we manage this as an ecosystem, I don't know. It sure would be
nice to not need kernel changes to push through a new virtual device
spec!
But I think your summary is good.
Thanks,
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-06 14:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-12 8:21 [PATCH v2 0/4] vfio-pci support pasid attach/detach Yi Liu
2024-04-12 8:21 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] ida: Add ida_get_lowest() Yi Liu
2024-04-16 16:03 ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-18 7:02 ` Yi Liu
2024-04-18 16:23 ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-18 17:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-19 13:43 ` Yi Liu
2024-04-19 13:55 ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-19 14:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-23 7:19 ` Yi Liu
2024-04-19 13:40 ` Yi Liu
2024-04-12 8:21 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] vfio-iommufd: Support pasid [at|de]tach for physical VFIO devices Yi Liu
2024-04-16 9:01 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-16 9:24 ` Yi Liu
2024-04-16 9:47 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-18 7:04 ` Yi Liu
2024-04-23 12:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-24 0:33 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-24 4:48 ` Yi Liu
2024-04-12 8:21 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] vfio: Add VFIO_DEVICE_PASID_[AT|DE]TACH_IOMMUFD_PT Yi Liu
2024-04-16 9:13 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-16 9:36 ` Yi Liu
2024-04-23 12:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-12 8:21 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] vfio: Report PASID capability via VFIO_DEVICE_FEATURE ioctl Yi Liu
2024-04-16 9:40 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-16 17:57 ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-17 7:09 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-17 20:25 ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-18 0:21 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-18 8:23 ` Yi Liu
2024-04-18 16:34 ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-23 12:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-24 0:24 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-24 13:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-16 8:38 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] vfio-pci support pasid attach/detach Tian, Kevin
2024-04-16 17:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-17 7:16 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-17 12:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-17 23:02 ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-18 0:06 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-18 9:03 ` Yi Liu
2024-04-18 20:37 ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-19 5:52 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-19 16:35 ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-23 7:43 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-23 12:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-23 23:47 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-24 0:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-24 2:57 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-24 12:29 ` Baolu Lu
2024-04-24 14:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-24 5:19 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-24 14:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-24 18:38 ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-24 18:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-24 18:24 ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-24 18:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-24 20:13 ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-26 14:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-26 20:13 ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-28 6:19 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-29 7:43 ` Yi Liu
2024-04-29 17:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-29 17:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-18 13:02 ` Yi Liu
2024-07-24 2:26 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-07-30 17:35 ` Alex Williamson
2024-07-31 5:15 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-07-31 17:04 ` Alex Williamson
2024-08-01 7:45 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-02 18:25 ` Alex Williamson
2024-08-05 5:35 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-06 14:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-14 6:38 ` Yi Liu
2024-08-14 7:38 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-14 8:19 ` Yi Liu
2024-08-14 8:26 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-14 14:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-15 2:12 ` Yi Liu
2024-08-16 8:29 ` Vasant Hegde
2024-08-16 11:52 ` Yi Liu
2024-08-16 12:01 ` Vasant Hegde
2024-08-16 12:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-16 13:14 ` Baolu Lu
2024-08-19 8:21 ` Vasant Hegde
2024-09-09 12:59 ` Yi Liu
2024-09-09 13:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-09 13:29 ` Yi Liu
2024-09-09 13:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-09 14:02 ` Yi Liu
2024-09-09 13:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-06 14:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-06 13:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-06 14:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2024-04-27 5:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-25 9:26 ` Yi Liu
2024-04-25 12:58 ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-26 9:01 ` Yi Liu
2024-04-19 13:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-23 7:58 ` Yi Liu
2024-04-23 12:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-19 13:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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