From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (relay1-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 264031CA696 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2024 13:00:45 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=217.70.183.193 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1725368448; cv=none; b=TXJ5bRvRQIxodFXN6ScuglfXi+r1EO+jS3lFeZqYkQIekbet5AKn82iskBCkMxamJJY+0wVi8vOGBeHI2Cazv10JfuI2Ri89QVHqZ5MOVeZEDJ6IqYB35poCgVqlWUW9l4Ph6Av8XOzsS/jTw1BwY1/vBg+8k3V4QVxcWsAyw0U= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1725368448; c=relaxed/simple; bh=+NMomSN5qzFQVRflmMClhfQIT7tuVrzOW9N5nigKAz8=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aGtDHnCbbKhDcbnlerF3BypSfiSleBKPfVv+j7eddKrNWiVV2Zl2OwIGXOUyFC2VNbLpZcCyV2A2xxiJ3ORxGsPhq6dAmXKHSi+8yY07UngdXtXkX3D5KQDeBgeUZU0zOKgaldmUOef/RTug7RU15lBfooavtlZacu2Qti4FUyw= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=reject dis=none) header.from=bootlin.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=bootlin.com; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=bootlin.com header.i=@bootlin.com header.b=Omt6/9d8; arc=none smtp.client-ip=217.70.183.193 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=reject dis=none) header.from=bootlin.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=bootlin.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=bootlin.com header.i=@bootlin.com header.b="Omt6/9d8" Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E70CE240003; Tue, 3 Sep 2024 13:00:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bootlin.com; s=gm1; t=1725368442; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=AkuUmV3lialxWeUM5Ad2YOHupRRB0gDWocBubLJ/teE=; b=Omt6/9d8bLVXbWm5GYCR83XbWNyFyUWf1oGygw5GqH93JIVxN11ZJT0BTQ2cHzVbmVkSF/ 9ZBxlgU/wBcZ1zjW+LlxZTnvpJ+GWCmoIgzTzUdt3JJwGyYATr5L5BB6Wr/hjt8FADZ4x+ HmSL8b+bvqh7UHt8wCf/+g4UHkzSRENG9kOJeLZXLPIrZtjtcJifn2hThAmYNhEYifXycH ZQMCvGihIpTCOpug9/CetC70ojtAkljrd45tMQ8ekpQFbDaKf77rNni0PS2XmIEXap4BFU hXFfVPBuUS7UEMxNg2m2LRlA0yOMoqU4e+a+pyAqt5+HSTCyhFj4LYrGRwptZg== Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2024 15:00:38 +0200 From: Miquel Raynal To: Frank Li Cc: Alexandre Belloni , Boris Brezillon , Parshuram Thombare , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Boris Brezillon , Arnd Bergmann , Conor Culhane , linux-i3c@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, imx@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/11] i3c: master: Extend address status bit to 4 and add I3C_ADDR_SLOT_EXT_INIT Message-ID: <20240903150038.3f224ec9@xps-13> In-Reply-To: References: <20240819-i3c_fix-v3-0-7d69f7b0a05e@nxp.com> <20240819-i3c_fix-v3-3-7d69f7b0a05e@nxp.com> <20240823180426.056ac093@xps-13> <20240826100430.33194702@xps-13> <20240826184924.53b48861@xps-13> <20240902161250.26846654@xps-13> Organization: Bootlin X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.2.0 (GTK 3.24.41; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: imx@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-GND-Sasl: miquel.raynal@bootlin.com Hi Frank, Frank.li@nxp.com wrote on Mon, 2 Sep 2024 14:20:51 -0400: > On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 04:12:50PM +0200, Miquel Raynal wrote: > > Hi Frank, > > =20 > > > > > switch to this address if it is free. > > > > > * > > > > > In step 1, i3c_bus_get_free_addr() is called. To optimize for ste= p 2b, this > > > > > function should return an address that is not pre-reserved by any= target > > > > > device with an assigned address in the device tree (DT). =20 > > > > > > > > This does not make sense, if you want to optimize for 2b, why not > > > > selecting the assigned-address property in the first place if it's > > > > available? =20 > > > > > > This is my first idea. But I gived up this way. > > > > > > Select an assigned-address here will involve a big change in i3c fram= ework. > > > There are no PID information in i3c_master_get_free_addr(). > > > > > > In DAA flow: > > > - SVC is get PID first, the get_free_addr(). This case, we can use PI= D to > > > get dt assigned address.(if change/add API) > > > - But HCI, it is difference, hci_cmd_v2_daa(), get_free_addr() firstl= y then > > > send out DAA command. So no PID information when call get_free_addr(). > > > > > > To cover both case, return a *real* free address here is simplest sol= ution. =20 > > > > But this is a limitation of the HCI driver? So why not addressing this > > in the HCI driver instead? It would greatly simplify the core logic > > which becomes complex for wrong reasons. =20 >=20 > It is reasonable requirement to reduce stall SCL time. After get PID, SCL > have to stall low to wait for software get dynamtic address, I3C spec all= ow > relative long time for this, but still better if hardware can send out PID > and dynamatic address together withoug stall SCL low. Pre-alloc adddress = is > good method if consider this. I don't think it is worth the trouble, given the complexity of all the changes. I prefer to simplify a bit the software and keep it readable than gaining few us with SCL low. In this case you also spend more time on the configuration I guess, so is it better than keeping SCL low (it will be low for some time anyway). > > > > Also, I don't understand why you would care to specifically > > > > *not* return an address that might be the default one for another > > > > device in the first place. =20 > > > > > > If devices A (want adddress 0xA), device B (want address 0xB), if both > > > device send hot join at the same time. device B's PID less than devic= e A, > > > > > > Device B will be found firstly, call get_free_addr(), 0xA will be ret= urn > > > if no this patch. > > > > > > Device A, call try_get_freeaddr() to get 0xB. > > > > > > So Devcie B will be assign to 0xA, and Device A will be assign to add= ress 0xB. > > > > > > After do_daa command, framework will add device B and device A into i= 3c bus. > > > > > > When framework try to add device B to i3c bus, framework will try swi= tch > > > device B's address to 0xB from 0xA, but it will be fail because 0xB a= lready > > > assigned to device A. =20 > > > > Well, okay, but that's exactly the situation that will happen if these > > devices are not described in your DT. I guess it's expected that a > > device not described in your DT can be connected, thanks to the > > hot-join feature. In this case you cannot know what is this device > > preferred address and you might end-up in the exact same situation. =20 >=20 > If not descript in DT, it means that any dynmatic address can be assigned. That's the point of view of the host. But a device might be "critical" and expect a low address, but the host not being aware. This is the same situation as your A and B conflict example. > > May I question the need for preferred addresses at all? Is this even > > part of the spec? What is the use-case? =20 >=20 > It is implements detail. I3C spec said lower dynamtic address have high I= BI > priority. Spec just said assign lower dynamtic address if want to higher > IBI prioerity. Using DT assign-address just is one implement method. Thanks for all the information, for me the HCI driver must be modified to retrieve the PID before assigning the dynamic address. 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