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From: Nirmal Patel <nirmal.patel@linux.intel.com>
To: Jian-Hong Pan <jhp@endlessos.org>
Cc: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
	"David E. Box" <david.e.box@linux.intel.com>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	"Johan Hovold" <johan@kernel.org>,
	"Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan"
	<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>,
	"Mika Westerberg" <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	"Damien Le Moal" <dlemoal@kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Derrick" <jonathan.derrick@linux.dev>,
	"Paul M Stillwell Jr" <paul.m.stillwell.jr@intel.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux@endlessos.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 4/4] PCI/ASPM: Fix L1.2 parameters when enable link state
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 09:03:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240920090333.000071fc@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPpJ_eeO9j38VGaukrw79dqQAZ7Z8+QMOvTbymyV9=fbQBqFzw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 12 Aug 2024 16:18:22 +0800
Jian-Hong Pan <jhp@endlessos.org> wrote:

> Ilpo Järvinen <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com> 於 2024年8月8日 週四
> 下午5:49寫道:
> >
> > On Wed, 7 Aug 2024, David E. Box wrote:
> >  
> > > On Wed, 2024-08-07 at 14:18 +0300, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:  
> > > > On Wed, 7 Aug 2024, Jian-Hong Pan wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > > David E. Box <david.e.box@linux.intel.com> 於 2024年8月6日
> > > > > 週二 上午4:26寫道:  
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Jian-Hong,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 2024-08-02 at 16:24 +0800, Jian-Hong Pan wrote:  
> > > > > > > Jian-Hong Pan <jhp@endlessos.org> 於 2024年7月19日 週五
> > > > > > > 下午4:04寫道:  
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Currently, when enable link's L1.2 features with
> > > > > > > > __pci_enable_link_state(),
> > > > > > > > it configs the link directly without ensuring related
> > > > > > > > L1.2 parameters, such
> > > > > > > > as T_POWER_ON, Common_Mode_Restore_Time, and
> > > > > > > > LTR_L1.2_THRESHOLD have been
> > > > > > > > programmed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This leads the link's L1.2 between PCIe Root Port and
> > > > > > > > child device gets
> > > > > > > > wrong configs when a caller tries to enabled it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Here is a failed example on ASUS B1400CEAE with enabled
> > > > > > > > VMD:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 10000:e0:06.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 11th Gen
> > > > > > > > Core Processor PCIe
> > > > > > > > Controller (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
> > > > > > > >     ...
> > > > > > > >     Capabilities: [200 v1] L1 PM Substates
> > > > > > > >         L1SubCap: PCI-PM_L1.2+ PCI-PM_L1.1+ ASPM_L1.2+
> > > > > > > > ASPM_L1.1+ L1_PM_Substates+
> > > > > > > >                   PortCommonModeRestoreTime=45us
> > > > > > > > PortTPowerOnTime=50us L1SubCtl1: PCI-PM_L1.2-
> > > > > > > > PCI-PM_L1.1- ASPM_L1.2+ ASPM_L1.1- T_CommonMode=45us
> > > > > > > > LTR1.2_Threshold=101376ns L1SubCtl2: T_PwrOn=50us
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 10000:e1:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Sandisk
> > > > > > > > Corp WD Blue SN550
> > > > > > > > NVMe SSD (rev 01) (prog-if 02 [NVM Express])
> > > > > > > >     ...
> > > > > > > >     Capabilities: [900 v1] L1 PM Substates
> > > > > > > >         L1SubCap: PCI-PM_L1.2+ PCI-PM_L1.1- ASPM_L1.2+
> > > > > > > > ASPM_L1.1- L1_PM_Substates+
> > > > > > > >                   PortCommonModeRestoreTime=32us
> > > > > > > > PortTPowerOnTime=10us L1SubCtl1: PCI-PM_L1.2-
> > > > > > > > PCI-PM_L1.1- ASPM_L1.2+ ASPM_L1.1- T_CommonMode=0us
> > > > > > > > LTR1.2_Threshold=0ns L1SubCtl2: T_PwrOn=10us
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > According to "PCIe r6.0, sec 5.5.4", before enabling
> > > > > > > > ASPM L1.2 on the PCIe
> > > > > > > > Root Port and the child NVMe, they should be programmed
> > > > > > > > with the same LTR1.2_Threshold value. However, they
> > > > > > > > have different values in this case.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Invoke aspm_calc_l12_info() to program the L1.2
> > > > > > > > parameters properly before
> > > > > > > > enable L1.2 bits of L1 PM Substates Control Register in
> > > > > > > > __pci_enable_link_state().
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Link: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=218394
> > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Jian-Hong Pan <jhp@endlessos.org>
> > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > v2:
> > > > > > > > - Prepare the PCIe LTR parameters before enable L1
> > > > > > > > Substates
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > v3:
> > > > > > > > - Only enable supported features for the L1 Substates
> > > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > v4:
> > > > > > > > - Focus on fixing L1.2 parameters, instead of
> > > > > > > > re-initializing whole L1SS
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > v5:
> > > > > > > > - Fix typo and commit message
> > > > > > > > - Split introducing aspm_get_l1ss_cap() to "PCI/ASPM:
> > > > > > > > Introduce aspm_get_l1ss_cap()"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > v6:
> > > > > > > > - Skipped
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > v7:
> > > > > > > > - Pick back and rebase on the new version kernel
> > > > > > > > - Drop the link state flag check. And, always config
> > > > > > > > link state's timing
> > > > > > > >   parameters
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > v8:
> > > > > > > > - Because pcie_aspm_get_link() might return the link as
> > > > > > > > NULL, move getting the link's parent and child devices
> > > > > > > > after check the link is not NULL. This avoids NULL
> > > > > > > > memory access.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  drivers/pci/pcie/aspm.c | 15 +++++++++++++++
> > > > > > > >  1 file changed, 15 insertions(+)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/pci/pcie/aspm.c
> > > > > > > > b/drivers/pci/pcie/aspm.c index
> > > > > > > > 5db1044c9895..55ff1d26fcea 100644 ---
> > > > > > > > a/drivers/pci/pcie/aspm.c +++ b/drivers/pci/pcie/aspm.c
> > > > > > > > @@ -1411,9 +1411,15 @@
> > > > > > > > EXPORT_SYMBOL(pci_disable_link_state); static int
> > > > > > > > __pci_enable_link_state(struct pci_dev *pdev, int
> > > > > > > > state, bool locked)
> > > > > > > >  {
> > > > > > > >         struct pcie_link_state *link =
> > > > > > > > pcie_aspm_get_link(pdev);
> > > > > > > > +       u32 parent_l1ss_cap, child_l1ss_cap;
> > > > > > > > +       struct pci_dev *parent, *child;
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >         if (!link)
> > > > > > > >                 return -EINVAL;
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +       parent = link->pdev;
> > > > > > > > +       child = link->downstream;
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > >         /*
> > > > > > > >          * A driver requested that ASPM be enabled on
> > > > > > > > this device, but
> > > > > > > >          * if we don't have permission to manage ASPM
> > > > > > > > (e.g., on ACPI @@ -1428,6 +1434,15 @@ static int
> > > > > > > > __pci_enable_link_state(struct pci_dev
> > > > > > > > *pdev, int state, bool locked)
> > > > > > > >         if (!locked)
> > > > > > > >                 down_read(&pci_bus_sem);
> > > > > > > >         mutex_lock(&aspm_lock);
> > > > > > > > +       /*
> > > > > > > > +        * Ensure L1.2 parameters:
> > > > > > > > Common_Mode_Restore_Times, T_POWER_ON and
> > > > > > > > +        * LTR_L1.2_THRESHOLD are programmed properly
> > > > > > > > before enable bits for
> > > > > > > > +        * L1.2, per PCIe r6.0, sec 5.5.4.
> > > > > > > > +        */
> > > > > > > > +       parent_l1ss_cap = aspm_get_l1ss_cap(parent);
> > > > > > > > +       child_l1ss_cap = aspm_get_l1ss_cap(child);
> > > > > > > > +       aspm_calc_l12_info(link, parent_l1ss_cap,
> > > > > > > > child_l1ss_cap);  
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I still don't think this is the place to recalculate the
> > > > > > L1.2 parameters especially when know the calculation was
> > > > > > done but was cleared by pci_bus_reset(). Can't we just do a
> > > > > > pci_save/restore_state() before/after pci_bus_reset() in
> > > > > > vmd.c?  
> > > > >
> > > > > I have not thought pci_save/restore_state() around
> > > > > pci_bus_reset() before.  It is an interesting direction.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, I prepare modification below for test.  Include "[PATCH
> > > > > v8 1/4] PCI: vmd: Set PCI devices to D0 before enable PCI
> > > > > PM's L1 substates", too.  Then, both the PCIe bridge and the
> > > > > PCIe device have the same LTR_L1.2_THRESHOLD 101376ns as
> > > > > expected.
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/vmd.c
> > > > > b/drivers/pci/controller/vmd.c index
> > > > > bbf4a47e7b31..6b8dd4f30127 100644 ---
> > > > > a/drivers/pci/controller/vmd.c +++
> > > > > b/drivers/pci/controller/vmd.c @@ -727,6 +727,18 @@ static
> > > > > void vmd_copy_host_bridge_flags(struct pci_host_bridge
> > > > > *root_bridge, vmd_bridge->native_dpc =
> > > > > root_bridge->native_dpc; }
> > > > >
> > > > > +static int vmd_pci_save_state(struct pci_dev *pdev, void
> > > > > *userdata) +{
> > > > > +       pci_save_state(pdev);
> > > > > +       return 0;
> > > > > +}
> > > > > +
> > > > > +static int vmd_pci_restore_state(struct pci_dev *pdev, void
> > > > > *userdata) +{
> > > > > +       pci_restore_state(pdev);
> > > > > +       return 0;
> > > > > +}
> > > > > +
> > > > >  /*
> > > > >   * Enable ASPM and LTR settings on devices that aren't
> > > > > configured by BIOS. */
> > > > > @@ -927,6 +939,7 @@ static int vmd_enable_domain(struct
> > > > > vmd_dev *vmd, unsigned long features)
> > > > >         pci_scan_child_bus(vmd->bus);
> > > > >         vmd_domain_reset(vmd);
> > > > >
> > > > > +       pci_walk_bus(vmd->bus, vmd_pci_save_state, NULL);
> > > > >         /* When Intel VMD is enabled, the OS does not
> > > > > discover the Root Ports
> > > > >          * owned by Intel VMD within the MMCFG space.
> > > > > pci_reset_bus() applies
> > > > >          * a reset to the parent of the PCI device supplied
> > > > > as argument. This
> > > > > @@ -945,6 +958,7 @@ static int vmd_enable_domain(struct
> > > > > vmd_dev *vmd, unsigned long features)
> > > > >                         break;
> > > > >                 }
> > > > >         }
> > > > > +       pci_walk_bus(vmd->bus, vmd_pci_restore_state, NULL);  
> > > >
> > > > Why not call pci_reset_bus() (or __pci_reset_bus()) then in
> > > > vmd_enable_domain() which preserves state unlike
> > > > pci_reset_bus()?
> > > >
> > > > (Don't tell me naming of these functions is a horrible mess.
> > > > :-/)  
> > >
> > > Hmm. So this *is* calling pci_reset_bus().  
> >
> > Yeah, I managed to get confused by the names myself, I somehow
> > ended up thinking it calls pci_bus_reset() which is not correct...
> >  
> > > L1.2 configuration has specific
> > > ordering requirements for changes to parent & child devices.
> > > Could be why it's not getting restored properly.  
> >
> > Indeed, it has to be something else since the patch above doesn't
> > even restore anything because dev->state_saved should get set to
> > false by the first pci_restore_state() called from
> > __pci_reset_bus() -> pci_bus_restore_locked() -> pci_dev_restore(),
> > I think!?  
> 
> Inspired by Ilpo's comment.  I add some debug messages based on
> linux-next's tag 'next-20240809' to understand the code path of
> pci_reset_bus():
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/pci/pci.c b/drivers/pci/pci.c
> index ffaaca0978cb..3ee71374f1de 100644
> --- a/drivers/pci/pci.c
> +++ b/drivers/pci/pci.c
> @@ -5133,8 +5133,10 @@ static void pci_dev_save_and_disable(struct
> pci_dev *dev)
>          * races with ->remove() by the device lock, which must be
> held by
>          * the caller.
>          */
> -       if (err_handler && err_handler->reset_prepare)
> +       if (err_handler && err_handler->reset_prepare) {
> +               pci_info(dev, "%s: %pF\n", __func__,
> err_handler->reset_prepare);
>                 err_handler->reset_prepare(dev);
> +       }
> 
>         /*
>          * Wake-up device prior to save.  PM registers default to D0
> after @@ -5144,6 +5146,7 @@ static void
> pci_dev_save_and_disable(struct pci_dev *dev)
> pci_set_power_state(dev, PCI_D0);
> 
>         pci_save_state(dev);
> +       pci_info(dev, "%s: PCI state_saved is %s\n", __func__,
> dev->state_saved ? "true" : "false");
>         /*
>          * Disable the device by clearing the Command register,
> except for
>          * INTx-disable which is set.  This not only disables MMIO
> and I/O port @@ -5655,6 +5658,10 @@ static void
> pci_bus_save_and_disable_locked(struct pci_bus *bus)
>         struct pci_dev *dev;
> 
>         list_for_each_entry(dev, &bus->devices, bus_list) {
> +               pci_info(dev, "%s: PCI state_saved is %s, and %s
> subordinate\n",
> +                        __func__,
> +                        dev->state_saved ? "true" : "false",
> +                        dev->subordinate ? "has" : "does not have");
>                 pci_dev_save_and_disable(dev);
>                 if (dev->subordinate)
>                         pci_bus_save_and_disable_locked(dev->subordinate);
> @@ -5671,6 +5678,10 @@ static void pci_bus_restore_locked(struct
> pci_bus *bus) struct pci_dev *dev;
> 
>         list_for_each_entry(dev, &bus->devices, bus_list) {
> +               pci_info(dev, "%s: PCI state_saved is %s, and %s
> subordinate\n",
> +                        __func__,
> +                        dev->state_saved ? "true" : "false",
> +                        dev->subordinate ? "has" : "does not have");
>                 pci_dev_restore(dev);
>                 if (dev->subordinate)
>                         pci_bus_restore_locked(dev->subordinate);
> @@ -5786,8 +5797,10 @@ static int pci_bus_reset(struct pci_bus *bus,
> bool probe) if (!bus->self || !pci_bus_resettable(bus))
>                 return -ENOTTY;
> 
> -       if (probe)
> +       if (probe) {
> +               pci_info(bus->self, "%s: probe is true.  So return 0
> directly", __func__);
>                 return 0;
> +       }
> 
>         pci_bus_lock(bus);
> 
> @@ -5858,10 +5871,12 @@ static int __pci_reset_bus(struct pci_bus
> *bus) int rc;
> 
>         rc = pci_bus_reset(bus, PCI_RESET_PROBE);
> +       pci_info(bus->self, "%s: pci_bus_reset() returns %d\n",
> __func__, rc); if (rc)
>                 return rc;
> 
>         if (pci_bus_trylock(bus)) {
> +               pci_info(bus->self, "%s: pci_bus_trylock() returns
> true\n", __func__);
>                 pci_bus_save_and_disable_locked(bus);
>                 might_sleep();
>                 rc = pci_bridge_secondary_bus_reset(bus->self);
> @@ -5881,6 +5896,7 @@ static int __pci_reset_bus(struct pci_bus *bus)
>   */
>  int pci_reset_bus(struct pci_dev *pdev)
>  {
> +       pci_info(pdev, "%s: %s", __func__,
> !pci_probe_reset_slot(pdev->slot) ? "true" : "false");
>         return (!pci_probe_reset_slot(pdev->slot)) ?
>             __pci_reset_slot(pdev->slot) : __pci_reset_bus(pdev->bus);
>  }
> 
> And, have the information of VMD PCIe devices with the built kernel:
> 
> 10000:e0:06.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 11th Gen Core
> Processor PCIe Controller [8086:9a09] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [Normal
> decode])
>   ...
>   Capabilities: [200 v1] L1 PM Substates
>     L1SubCap: PCI-PM_L1.2+ PCI-PM_L1.1+ ASPM_L1.2+ ASPM_L1.1+
> L1_PM_Substates+ PortCommonModeRestoreTime=45us PortTPowerOnTime=50us
>     L1SubCtl1: PCI-PM_L1.2- PCI-PM_L1.1- ASPM_L1.2+ ASPM_L1.1-
>       T_CommonMode=0us LTR1.2_Threshold=0ns
>     L1SubCtl2: T_PwrOn=0us
> 
> 10000:e1:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller [0108]: Sandisk Corp WD
> Blue SN550 NVMe SSD [15b7:5009] (rev 01) (prog-if 02 [NVM Express])
>   ...
>   Capabilities: [900 v1] L1 PM Substates
>     L1SubCap: PCI-PM_L1.2+ PCI-PM_L1.1- ASPM_L1.2+ ASPM_L1.1-
> L1_PM_Substates+ PortCommonModeRestoreTime=32us PortTPowerOnTime=10us
>     L1SubCtl1: PCI-PM_L1.2- PCI-PM_L1.1- ASPM_L1.2+ ASPM_L1.1-
>       T_CommonMode=0us LTR1.2_Threshold=101376ns
>     L1SubCtl2: T_PwrOn=50us
> 
> We can see the NVMe has expected LTR1.2_Threshold=101376ns, but the
> PCIe bridge has LTR1.2_Threshold=0ns.
> 
> Then, check the dmesg.  I notice the debug messages:
> 
> pci 10000:e0:06.0: PCI bridge to [bus e1]
> pci 10000:e0:06.0: Primary bus is hard wired to 0
> pci 10000:e1:00.0: pci_reset_bus: false
> pci 10000:e0:06.0: pci_bus_reset: probe is true.  So return 0 directly
> pci 10000:e0:06.0: __pci_reset_bus: pci_bus_reset() returns 0
> pci 10000:e0:06.0: __pci_reset_bus: pci_bus_trylock() returns true
> pci 10000:e1:00.0: pci_bus_save_and_disable_locked: PCI state_saved is
> false, and does not have subordinate
> pci 10000:e1:00.0: pci_dev_save_and_disable: PCI state_saved is true
> Freeing initrd memory: 75236K
> pci 10000:e1:00.0: pci_bus_restore_locked: PCI state_saved is true,
> and does not have subordinate
> 
> So, the code path is:
> 
> vmd_enable_domain()
>   pci_reset_bus()
>     __pci_reset_bus()
>       pci_bus_reset()
>         pci_bus_save_and_disable_locked()
>           pci_dev_save_and_disable()
>         pci_bus_restore_locked()
>           pci_dev_restore()
> 
> And, from the debug messages, I learned only NVMe 10000:e1:00.0 does
> pci_save/restore_state.  But, the PCIe bridge 10000:e0:06.0 does not.
> So, PCIe bridge 10000:e0:06.0 does not restore state correctly.
> 
> Besides, it is NVMe 10000:e1:00.0's bus [e1] been reset, not the VMD's
> bus in vmd_enable_domain().
> * Bus "e1" has only NVMe 10000:e1:00.0
> * VMD's bus in vmd_enable_domain() has PCIe bridge 10000:e0:06.0, NVMe
> 10000:e1:00.0 and SATA Controller 10000:e0:17.0.
> 
> Here is the PCI tree:
> 
> -+-[0000:00]-+-00.0  Intel Corporation Device 9a04
>  |           +-02.0  Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP GT2 [UHD
> Graphics G4] |           +-04.0  Intel Corporation TigerLake-LP
> Dynamic Tuning Processor Participant
>  |           +-06.0  Intel Corporation RST VMD Managed Controller
>  |           +-07.0-[01-2b]--
>  |           +-08.0  Intel Corporation GNA Scoring Accelerator module
>  |           +-0a.0  Intel Corporation Tigerlake Telemetry Aggregator
> Driver |           +-0d.0  Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP
> Thunderbolt 4 USB Controller
>  |           +-0d.2  Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP Thunderbolt 4
> NHI #0 |           +-0e.0  Intel Corporation Volume Management Device
> NVMe RAID Controller
>  |           +-14.0  Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP USB 3.2 Gen 2x1
> xHCI Host Controller
>  |           +-14.2  Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP Shared SRAM
>  |           +-14.3  Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX201
>  |           +-15.0  Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP Serial IO I2C
> Controller #0 |           +-15.1  Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP
> Serial IO I2C Controller #1 |           +-16.0  Intel Corporation
> Tiger Lake-LP Management Engine Interface |           +-17.0  Intel
> Corporation RST VMD Managed Controller |           +-1f.0  Intel
> Corporation Tiger Lake-LP LPC Controller |           +-1f.3  Intel
> Corporation Tiger Lake-LP Smart Sound Technology Audio Controller
>  |           +-1f.4  Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP SMBus Controller
>  |           +-1f.5  Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP SPI Controller
>  |           \-1f.6  Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (13) I219-V
>  \-[10000:e0]-+-06.0-[e1]----00.0  Sandisk Corp WD Blue SN550 NVMe SSD
>               \-17.0  Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP SATA Controller
> 
> According the findings above, to ensure the devices on the VMD bus
> have correctly states, seems pci_save_state() all the devices before
> pci_reset_bus(), and pci_restore_state() all the devices after
> pci_reset_bus() is the correct answer.

Did you get a chance to test this theory?

> 
> Jian-Hong Pan


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-20 16:03 UTC|newest]

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2024-07-19  7:52 [PATCH v8 0/4] PCI: vmd: Enable PCI PM's L1 substates of remapped PCIe Root Port and NVMe Jian-Hong Pan
2024-07-19  7:55 ` [PATCH v8 1/4] PCI: vmd: Set PCI devices to D0 before enable PCI PM's L1 substates Jian-Hong Pan
2024-07-19  7:57 ` [PATCH v8 2/4] PCI/ASPM: Add notes about enabling PCI-PM L1SS to pci_enable_link_state(_locked) Jian-Hong Pan
2024-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH v8 3/4] PCI/ASPM: Introduce aspm_get_l1ss_cap() Jian-Hong Pan
2024-07-19  8:02 ` [PATCH v8 4/4] PCI/ASPM: Fix L1.2 parameters when enable link state Jian-Hong Pan
2024-08-02  8:24   ` Jian-Hong Pan
2024-08-05 18:24     ` Nirmal Patel
2024-08-07  4:23       ` Jian-Hong Pan
2024-08-05 20:26     ` David E. Box
2024-08-07 10:05       ` Jian-Hong Pan
2024-08-07 11:18         ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-08-07 23:27           ` David E. Box
2024-08-08  9:48             ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-08-12  8:18               ` Jian-Hong Pan
2024-09-02 15:43                 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-09-03 10:31                   ` Jian-Hong Pan
2024-09-23  8:41                   ` Jian-Hong Pan
2024-09-23 13:44                     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-09-03 15:17                 ` Nirmal Patel
2024-09-04  3:56                   ` Jian-Hong Pan
2024-09-20 16:03                 ` Nirmal Patel [this message]
2024-09-23 10:57                   ` Jian-Hong Pan

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