From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Christoph Lameter (Ampere)" <cl@gentwo.org>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] Avoid memory barrier in read_seqcount() through load acquire
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:45:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241023194543.GD11151@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjdOX0t45a7aHerVPv_WBM3AmMi3sEp8xb19jpLFnk0dA@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 09:28:31AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Sept 2024 at 08:22, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 18 Sept 2024 at 13:15, Christoph Lameter (Ampere) <cl@gentwo.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Other arches do not have acquire / release and will create additional
> > > barriers in the fallback implementation of smp_load_acquire. So it needs
> > > to be an arch config option.
> >
> > Actually, I looked at a few cases, and it doesn't really seem to be true.
>
> Bah. I ended up just committing the minimal version of this all. I
> gave Christoph credit for the commit, because I stole his commit
> message, and he did most of the work, I just ended up going "simplify,
> simplify, simplify".
>
> I doubt anybody will notice, and smp_load_acquire() is the future. Any
> architecture that does badly on it just doesn't matter (and, as
> mentioned, I don't think they even exist - "smp_rmb()" is generally at
> least as expensive).
Do we want to do the complementing patch and make write_seqcount_end()
use smp_store_release() ?
I think at least ARM (the 32bit thing) has wmb but uses mb for
store_release. But I also think I don't really care about that.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-23 19:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-12 22:44 [PATCH v3] Avoid memory barrier in read_seqcount() through load acquire Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-09-12 22:44 ` Christoph Lameter via B4 Relay
2024-09-13 13:41 ` kernel test robot
2024-09-16 17:52 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-09-17 7:37 ` Will Deacon
2024-09-17 11:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-09-18 0:45 ` Vivi, Rodrigo
2024-09-13 13:41 ` kernel test robot
2024-09-17 7:12 ` Will Deacon
2024-09-18 11:03 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-09-18 15:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-23 16:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-23 19:45 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2024-10-23 20:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-28 14:10 ` Will Deacon
2024-10-23 23:42 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-25 7:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-25 19:30 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-09-17 11:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-09-18 11:11 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
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