From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Keith Busch <kbusch@meta.com>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, io-uring@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, joshi.k@samsung.com,
javier.gonz@samsung.com, bvanassche@acm.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv9 4/7] block, fs: add write hint to kiocb
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 17:08:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241028160808.GA28077@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zx-hzSwkkUMeuA5C@kbusch-mbp>
On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 08:38:05AM -0600, Keith Busch wrote:
> > > + if (bdev_is_partition(bdev) &&
> > > + !test_bit(hint - 1, bdev->write_hint_mask))
> > > + return file_inode(iocb->ki_filp)->i_write_hint;
> >
> > I would have expected an error when using an invalid stream identifier.
>
> It's a hint. fcntl doesn't error if you give an unusable hint, so
> neither should this. You get sane default behavior.
Well, why does it have to be a hint?
If I have a data placement aware application I really want to know
into how many buckets I can sort and adjust my algorithm for it.
And I'd rather have an error checked interface to pass that down
as far as I can.
Same for my file system use case. I guess you have a use case where
a hint would be enough, at least with good enough knowledge of the
underlying implementation. But would there be an actual downside
in not having a hint? Because historically speaking everything we've
done as a not error checked vaguely defined hint has not been all
the useful, but it in hardware or software interfaces.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-28 16:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-25 21:36 [PATCHv9 0/7] write hints with nvme fdp, scsi streams Keith Busch
2024-10-25 21:36 ` [PATCHv9 1/7] block: use generic u16 for write hints Keith Busch
2024-10-28 18:19 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-28 18:38 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-25 21:36 ` [PATCHv9 2/7] block: introduce max_write_hints queue limit Keith Busch
2024-10-28 11:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-28 11:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-25 21:36 ` [PATCHv9 3/7] block: allow ability to limit partition write hints Keith Busch
2024-10-28 11:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-28 14:49 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-28 14:40 ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-10-28 18:27 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-28 19:46 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-25 21:36 ` [PATCHv9 4/7] block, fs: add write hint to kiocb Keith Busch
2024-10-28 11:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-28 14:38 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-28 16:08 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-10-25 21:36 ` [PATCHv9 5/7] io_uring: enable per-io hinting capability Keith Busch
2024-10-29 12:46 ` Anuj gupta
2024-10-25 21:36 ` [PATCHv9 6/7] nvme: enable FDP support Keith Busch
2024-10-25 21:36 ` [PATCHv9 7/7] scsi: set permanent stream count in block limits Keith Busch
2024-10-28 16:13 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-29 7:10 ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-10-28 11:49 ` [PATCHv9 0/7] write hints with nvme fdp, scsi streams Christoph Hellwig
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