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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
To: Akash Goel <akash.goel@arm.com>
Cc: liviu.dudau@arm.com, steven.price@arm.com,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mihail.atanassov@arm.com, ketil.johnsen@arm.com,
	florent.tomasin@arm.com, maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com,
	mripard@kernel.org, tzimmermann@suse.de, airlied@gmail.com,
	daniel@ffwll.ch, nd@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] drm/panthor: Prevent potential overwrite of buffer objects
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 14:41:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241104144150.65c6887c@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ca33d9b9-683d-4c09-951a-1bc48287bdde@arm.com>

On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 12:49:56 +0000
Akash Goel <akash.goel@arm.com> wrote:

> On 11/4/24 11:16, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > Hi Akash,
> > 
> > On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 21:42:27 +0000
> > Akash Goel <akash.goel@arm.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> I assume you also reckon that there is a potential problem here for arm64.  
> > 
> > It impacts any system that's not IO-coherent I would say, and this
> > comment seems to prove this is a known issue [3].
> >   
> 
> Thanks for confirming.
> 
> Actually I had tried to check with Daniel Vetter about [3], as it was 
> not clear to me that how that code exactly helped in x86 case.
> As far as I understand, [3] updates the attribute of direct kernel 
> mapping of the shmem pages to WC, so as to be consistent with the 
> Userspace mapping of the pages or their vmapping inside the kernel.
> But didn't get how that alignment actually helped in cleaning the dirty 
> cache lines.

Yeah, I was not referring to the code but rather the fact that x86,
with its IO coherency model, is a special case here, and that other
archs probably need explicit flushes in a few places.

> >>
> >> shmem calls 'flush_dcache_folio()' after clearing the pages but that
> >> just clears the 'PG_dcache_clean' bit and CPU cache is not cleaned
> >> immediately.
> >>
> >> I realize that this patch is not foolproof, as Userspace can try to
> >> populate the BO from CPU side before mapping it on the GPU side.
> >>
> >> Not sure if we also need to consider the case when shmem pages are
> >> swapped out. Don't know if there could be a similar situation of dirty
> >> cachelines after the swap in.  
> > 
> > I think we do. We basically need to flush CPU caches any time
> > pages are [re]allocated, because the shmem layer will either zero-out
> > (first allocation) or populate (swap-in) in that path, and in both
> > cases, it involves a CPU copy to a cached mapping.
> >   
> 
> Thanks for confirming.
> 
> I think we may have to do cache flush page by page.
> Not all pages might get swapped out and the initial allocation of all 
> pages may not happen at the same time.

If the pages are mapped GPU-side, it's always all pages at a time (at
least until we add support for lazy page allocation, AKA growing/heap
buffers). You're right that GPU buffers that have only been mapped
CPU-side with mmap() get their pages lazily allocated, though I'm not
really sure we care about optimizing that case just yet.

> Please correct me if my understanding is wrong.

Eviction should be rare enough that we can probably pay the price of a
flush on the entire BO range.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-04 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-24 14:54 [PATCH 0/3] drm/panthor: Coherency related fixes Akash Goel
2024-10-24 14:54 ` [PATCH 1/3] drm/panthor: Update memattr programing to align with GPU spec Akash Goel
2024-10-24 15:49   ` Boris Brezillon
2024-10-25  9:24     ` Liviu Dudau
2024-10-25 12:31       ` Boris Brezillon
2024-10-25 10:03   ` Steven Price
2024-10-24 14:54 ` [PATCH 2/3] drm/panthor: Explicitly set the coherency mode Akash Goel
2024-10-24 15:51   ` Boris Brezillon
2024-10-25  9:29   ` Liviu Dudau
2024-10-25 10:03   ` Steven Price
2024-10-24 14:54 ` [PATCH 3/3] drm/panthor: Prevent potential overwrite of buffer objects Akash Goel
2024-10-24 15:39   ` Boris Brezillon
2024-10-31 21:42     ` Akash Goel
2024-11-04 11:16       ` Boris Brezillon
2024-11-04 12:49         ` Akash Goel
2024-11-04 13:41           ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2024-10-30 15:46 ` [PATCH 0/3] drm/panthor: Coherency related fixes Boris Brezillon

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