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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, nphamcs@gmail.com,
	shakeel.butt@linux.dev, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, chris@chrisdown.name, tj@kernel.org,
	lizefan.x@bytedance.com, mkoutny@suse.com, corbet@lwn.net,
	lnyng@meta.com, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/1] memcg/hugetlb: Add hugeTLB counters to memcg
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 00:26:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241114052624.GD1564047@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c41adcce-473d-c1a7-57a1-0c44ea572679@google.com>

On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 02:42:29PM -0800, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Nov 2024, David Rientjes wrote:
> 
> > > The reason that I opted not to include a breakdown of each hugetlb
> > > size in memory.stat is only because I wanted to keep the addition that
> > > this patch makes as minimal as possible, while still addressing
> > > the goal of bridging the gap between memory.stat and memory.current.
> > > Users who are curious about this breakdown can see how much memory
> > > is used by each hugetlb size by enabling the hugetlb controller as well.
> > > 
> > 
> > While the patch may be minimal, this is solidifying a kernel API that 
> > users will start to count on.  Users who may be interested in their 
> > hugetlb usage may not have control over the configuration of their kernel?
> > 
> > Does it make sense to provide a breakdown in memory.stat so that users can 
> > differentiate between mapping one 1GB hugetlb page and 512 2MB hugetlb 
> > pages, which are different global resources?
> > 
> > > It's true that this is the case as well for total hugeltb usage, but
> > > I felt that not including hugetlb memory usage in memory.stat when it
> > > is accounted by memory.current would cause confusion for the users
> > > not being able to see that memory.current = sum of memory.stat. On the
> > > other hand, seeing the breakdown of how much each hugetlb size felt more
> > > like an optimization, and not a solution that bridges a confusion.
> > > 
> > 
> > If broken down into hugetlb_2048kB and hugetlb_1048576kB on x86, for 
> > example, users could still do sum of memory.stat, no?>
> > 
> 
> Friendly ping on this, would there be any objections to splitting the 
> memory.stat metrics out to be per hugepage size?

I don't think it has to be either/or. We can add the total here, and a
per-size breakdown in a separate patch (with its own changelog)?

That said, a per-size breakdown might make more sense in the hugetlb
cgroup controller. You're mentioning separate global resources, which
suggests this is about more explicitly controlled hugetlb use.

From a memcg POV, all hugetlb is the same. It's just (non-swappable)
memory consumed by the cgroup.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-11-14  5:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-01 20:44 [PATCH v4 1/1] memcg/hugetlb: Add hugeTLB counters to memcg Joshua Hahn
2024-11-10  2:19 ` David Rientjes
2024-11-11 15:58   ` Joshua Hahn
2024-11-11 17:41     ` David Rientjes
2024-11-13 22:42       ` David Rientjes
2024-11-14  1:08         ` Nhat Pham
2024-11-14  5:26         ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2024-11-14 10:33           ` Michal Hocko
2024-11-14 16:36           ` Roman Gushchin
2024-11-17  3:34           ` David Rientjes
2024-11-14 16:42         ` Joshua Hahn

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