From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
Cc: kernel-team@fb.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, jack@suse.cz,
amir73il@gmail.com, brauner@kernel.org,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 09/19] fsnotify: generate pre-content permission event on truncate
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 16:23:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241120152340.gu7edmtm2j3lmxoy@quack3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <23af8201db6ac2efdea94f09ab067d81ba5de7a7.1731684329.git.josef@toxicpanda.com>
On Fri 15-11-24 10:30:22, Josef Bacik wrote:
> From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
>
> Generate FS_PRE_ACCESS event before truncate, without sb_writers held.
>
> Move the security hooks also before sb_start_write() to conform with
> other security hooks (e.g. in write, fallocate).
>
> The event will have a range info of the page surrounding the new size
> to provide an opportunity to fill the conetnt at the end of file before
> truncating to non-page aligned size.
>
> Signed-off-by: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
I was thinking about this. One small issue is that similarly as the
filesystems may do RMW of tail page during truncate, they will do RMW of
head & tail pages on hole punch or zero range so we should have some
strategically sprinkled fsnotify_truncate_perm() calls there as well.
That's easy enough to fix.
But there's another problem which I'm more worried about: If we have
a file 64k large, user punches 12k..20k and then does read for 0..64k, then
how does HSM daemon in userspace know what data to fill in? When we'll have
modify pre-content event, daemon can watch it and since punch will send modify
for 12k-20k, the daemon knows the local (empty) page cache is the source of
truth. But without modify event this is just a recipe for data corruption
AFAICT.
So it seems the current setting with access pre-content event has only chance
to work reliably in read-only mode? So we should probably refuse writeable
open if file is being watched for pre-content events and similarly refuse
truncate?
Honza
--
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-20 15:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-15 15:30 [PATCH v8 00/19] fanotify: add pre-content hooks Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 01/19] fs: get rid of __FMODE_NONOTIFY kludge Josef Bacik
2024-11-18 18:14 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 02/19] fsnotify: opt-in for permission events at file open time Josef Bacik
2024-11-20 15:53 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-20 16:12 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-21 9:39 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-21 10:09 ` Christian Brauner
2024-11-21 11:04 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-21 11:16 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-21 11:32 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-21 9:45 ` Christian Brauner
2024-11-21 11:39 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 03/19] fsnotify: add helper to check if file is actually being watched Josef Bacik
2024-11-20 16:02 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-20 16:42 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-21 8:54 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 04/19] fanotify: don't skip extra event info if no info_mode is set Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 05/19] fanotify: rename a misnamed constant Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 06/19] fanotify: reserve event bit of deprecated FAN_DIR_MODIFY Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 07/19] fsnotify: introduce pre-content permission events Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 08/19] fsnotify: pass optional file access range in pre-content event Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 09/19] fsnotify: generate pre-content permission event on truncate Josef Bacik
2024-11-20 15:23 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2024-11-20 15:57 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-20 16:16 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 10/19] fanotify: introduce FAN_PRE_ACCESS permission event Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:59 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-21 10:44 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-21 14:18 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-21 16:36 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-21 18:31 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-21 18:37 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-22 12:42 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-22 13:51 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-27 12:18 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-27 12:20 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 11/19] fanotify: report file range info with pre-content events Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 12/19] fanotify: allow to set errno in FAN_DENY permission response Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 13/19] fanotify: add a helper to check for pre content events Josef Bacik
2024-11-20 15:44 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-20 16:43 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 14/19] fanotify: disable readahead if we have pre-content watches Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 15/19] mm: don't allow huge faults for files with pre content watches Josef Bacik
2025-01-31 19:17 ` [REGRESSION] " Alex Williamson
2025-01-31 19:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-01 1:19 ` Peter Xu
2025-02-01 14:38 ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-02 0:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-02 7:46 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-02-02 10:04 ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-03 12:41 ` Jan Kara
2025-02-03 20:39 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-02-03 21:41 ` Alex Williamson
2025-02-03 22:04 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 16/19] fsnotify: generate pre-content permission event on page fault Josef Bacik
2024-12-08 16:58 ` Klara Modin
2024-12-09 10:45 ` Aithal, Srikanth
2024-12-09 12:34 ` Jan Kara
2024-12-09 12:31 ` Jan Kara
2024-12-09 12:56 ` Klara Modin
2024-12-09 14:16 ` Jan Kara
2024-12-10 21:12 ` Randy Dunlap
2024-12-11 16:30 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 17/19] xfs: add pre-content fsnotify hook for write faults Josef Bacik
2024-11-21 10:22 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 18/19] btrfs: disable defrag on pre-content watched files Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 19/19] fs: enable pre-content events on supported file systems Josef Bacik
2024-11-21 11:29 ` [PATCH v8 00/19] fanotify: add pre-content hooks Jan Kara
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