From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59B3BD75E36 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2024 12:38:39 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Sender:List-Subscribe:List-Help :List-Post:List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Owner; bh=ab/arcOHLlcb8ltEz12OKbbcN0JNiSj2oQMVwfbb6cw=; b=D2K0pw1ihOrrsmVgsEpbzugmVf HuaiS9+qVs5qUrl0ErHO/J2Ql79bINZlAkCfKvKW0E6rmfaJKiF0WxIUOsaJkDEJRMtEO++uMdnbQ PtLG7IKuBGuSZ7nDE38KqJmRUA3Tefo2yAEMLqwCypqq07uMDHYPyZ2U2K3qazvIKtFzEccHgDVqD GUGdMpVpNZNldnh5e2oZnhSow8EZ04g20QLzvhNBTjlLY1tv96q5FXRzFlYaw30Pe9ZkLMX2A22Kn Cl5+tixg1G8yV4zwscpe74O3buipXDX4unpSRdPsEh0U+mDRw4XTlNvHHKJ/UrL2te4xc7jUFQLWz dsLUZTSA==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=bombadil.infradead.org) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.98 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1tESvm-00000002T2D-2nLf; Fri, 22 Nov 2024 12:38:38 +0000 Received: from verein.lst.de ([213.95.11.211]) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.98 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1tESvk-00000002T1H-3eqg for linux-um@lists.infradead.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2024 12:38:38 +0000 Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id 48E5268D0A; Fri, 22 Nov 2024 13:38:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 13:38:33 +0100 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Lorenzo Stoakes Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Johannes Berg , Hajime Tazaki , linux-um@lists.infradead.org, ricarkol@google.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, vbabka@suse.cz, linux-mm@kvack.org, Jann Horn , Damien Le Moal Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 00/13] nommu UML Message-ID: <20241122123833.GA26432@lst.de> References: <77ab71c7-3608-4636-a618-3044c2316a92@lucifer.local> <0930a0fa8e28ecaf92727229e6633278399409e7.camel@sipsolutions.net> <20241122121826.GA26024@lst.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20241122_043837_049344_0A8E9700 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 13.64 ) X-BeenThere: linux-um@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: "linux-um" Errors-To: linux-um-bounces+linux-um=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 12:25:19PM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: > It's an ongoing maintenance burden, discussions about seeing whether it's > feasible to remove it have been had in multiple places. > > I have personally run into issues having to accommodate it on numerous > occasions, as have many others. > > I'd be interested to know which products specifically ship this and also > require tip kernel, perhaps this is just a case of my not being aware of > certain architectures? I can't tell you the products I know on commercial basis. Most of them are arm based, but I also know about at least one RISC-V one. They all used the latest long term stable at the time of release and tend to stay on that. And the involved vendors keep spinning out new versions of these every few years.