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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	kbusch@kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk, sagi@grimberg.me,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, andersson@kernel.org,
	konradybcio@kernel.org, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nvme-pci: Shutdown the device if D3Cold is allowed by the user
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 08:28:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250103072805.GB28920@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dd557897-f2e0-4347-ae67-27cd45920159@oss.qualcomm.com>

On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 04:15:21PM +0100, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> The Qualcomm platform (or class of platforms) we're looking at with this
> specific issue requires PCIe (implying NVMe) shutdown for S2RAM.
> 
> The S2RAM entry mechanism is unfortunately misrepresented as an S2Idle
> state by Linux as of today, and I'm trying really hard to convince some
> folks to let me describe it correctly, with little success so far..

Well, not advertizing the right mechanism isn't going to cause havoc
to any scheme.

> That is the real underlying issue and once/if it's solved, this patch
> will not be necessary.

Well, maybe this thread gave good enough fodder to finally fix it?

> 
> > In theory, ACPI S3 or hibernation may request that, but I've never
> > seen it happen in practice.
> > 
> > Suspend-to-idle on x86 may want devices to end up in specific power
> > states in order to be able to switch the entire platform into a deep
> > energy-saving mode, but that's never been D3cold so far.
> 
> In our case the plug is only pulled in S2RAM, otherwise the best we can
> do is just turn off the devices individually to decrease the overall
> power draw

FYI, going to D3 for S2RAM seems perfectly reasonable from the NVMe POV.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-03  7:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-18  8:23 [PATCH] nvme-pci: Shutdown the device if D3Cold is allowed by the user Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-11-18 12:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-18 14:58   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-11-22 22:20 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-11-23  9:01   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-11-26 17:11     ` Bjorn Andersson
2024-11-27  5:49       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-05 23:29     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-12-06  1:49       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-12-09 13:36         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-09 14:38           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-12  5:59             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 12:21               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-12 12:49                 ` Ulf Hansson
2024-12-12 15:13                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-13 14:35                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-14  6:30                       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-16 16:23                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-16 16:42                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-16 16:48                             ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-16 17:28                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-16 17:39                                 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-16 19:10                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-20 15:15                             ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-12-21  3:38                               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-21 11:17                                 ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-12-26 16:22                                   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-01-03  7:28                               ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-01-03 11:48                                 ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-12-16 16:24                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-16 17:11                           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-16 17:35                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-16 17:52                               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-16 19:34                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-16 19:40                                   ` Keith Busch
2024-12-16 19:43                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-17  5:26                                   ` manivannan.sadhasivam
2024-12-17 19:45                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-19  8:02                                       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-19 12:45                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-12-19 16:41                                           ` Ulf Hansson
2024-12-19 18:28                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-01-03  7:26                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-19  6:30                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-19  8:03                                   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-09 14:43         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-12-09 14:57       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam

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