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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, andrii@kernel.org, memxor@gmail.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, vbabka@suse.cz, bigeasy@linutronix.de,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, houtao1@huawei.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	shakeel.butt@linux.dev, willy@infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	jannh@google.com, tj@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v4 1/6] mm, bpf: Introduce try_alloc_pages() for opportunistic page allocation
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 11:39:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250114103946.GC8362@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z4Y6PS3Nj8EMt9Mx@tiehlicka>

On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 11:19:41AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 14-01-25 10:53:55, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 06:19:17PM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > > From: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
> > > 
> > > Tracing BPF programs execute from tracepoints and kprobes where
> > > running context is unknown, but they need to request additional
> > > memory.
> > 
> > > The prior workarounds were using pre-allocated memory and
> > > BPF specific freelists to satisfy such allocation requests.
> > > Instead, introduce gfpflags_allow_spinning() condition that signals
> > > to the allocator that running context is unknown.
> > > Then rely on percpu free list of pages to allocate a page.
> > > The rmqueue_pcplist() should be able to pop the page from.
> > > If it fails (due to IRQ re-entrancy or list being empty) then
> > > try_alloc_pages() attempts to spin_trylock zone->lock
> > > and refill percpu freelist as normal.
> > 
> > > BPF program may execute with IRQs disabled and zone->lock is
> > > sleeping in RT, so trylock is the only option. 
> > 
> > how is spin_trylock() from IRQ context not utterly broken in RT?
> 
> +	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT) && (in_nmi() || in_hardirq()))
> +		return NULL;
> 
> Deals with that, right?

Changelog didn't really mention that, did it? -- it seems to imply quite
the opposite :/

But maybe, I suppose any BPF program needs to expect failure due to this
being trylock. I just worry some programs will malfunction due to never
succeeding -- and RT getting blamed for this.

Maybe I worry too much.



  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-14 10:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-14  2:19 [PATCH bpf-next v4 0/6] bpf, mm: Introduce try_alloc_pages() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-14  2:19 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 1/6] mm, bpf: Introduce try_alloc_pages() for opportunistic page allocation Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-14  9:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-14 10:19     ` Michal Hocko
2025-01-14 10:39       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-01-14 10:43         ` Michal Hocko
2025-01-14 18:29         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-14 18:34           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-14 10:31   ` Michal Hocko
2025-01-15  1:23     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-15  8:35       ` Michal Hocko
2025-01-15 22:33         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-14  2:19 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 2/6] mm, bpf: Introduce free_pages_nolock() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-14  2:19 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 3/6] locking/local_lock: Introduce local_trylock_irqsave() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-14  2:19 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 4/6] memcg: Use trylock to access memcg stock_lock Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-14 10:39   ` Michal Hocko
2025-01-14  2:19 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 5/6] mm, bpf: Use memcg in try_alloc_pages() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-14  2:19 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 6/6] bpf: Use try_alloc_pages() to allocate pages for bpf needs Alexei Starovoitov

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