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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>
Cc: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	sumit.semwal@linaro.org, christian.koenig@amd.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, seanjc@google.com,
	alex.williamson@redhat.com, vivek.kasireddy@intel.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, yilun.xu@intel.com,
	linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	lukas@wunner.de, yan.y.zhao@intel.com, daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch,
	leon@kernel.org, zhenzhong.duan@intel.com, tao1.su@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 08/12] vfio/pci: Create host unaccessible dma-buf for private device
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 09:28:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250120132843.GI5556@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <835c7751-d8ba-4af0-812f-2b3a9a91d0bc@amd.com>

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 08:45:51PM +1100, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:

> > For CC I'm expecting the KVM fd to be the handle for the cVM, so any
> > RPCs that want to call into the secure world need the KVM FD to get
> > the cVM's identifier. Ie a "bind to cVM" RPC will need the PCI
> > information and the cVM's handle.
> 
> And keep KVM fd open until unbind? Or just for the short time to call the
> PSP?

iommufd will keep the KVM fd alive so long as the vIOMMU object
exists. Other uses for kvm require it to work like this.

> > But it also seems to me that VFIO should be able to support putting
> > the device into the RUN state without involving KVM or cVMs.
> 
> AMD's TDI bind handler in the PSP wants a guest handle ("GCTX") and a guest
> device BDFn, and VFIO has no desire to dive into this KVM business beyond
> IOMMUFD.

As in my other email, VFIO is not restricted to running VMs, useful
things should be available to apps like DPDK.

There is a use case for using TDISP and getting devices up into an
ecrypted/attested state on pure bare metal without any KVM, VFIO
should work in that use case too.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-20 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-07 14:27 [RFC PATCH 00/12] Private MMIO support for private assigned dev Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] dma-buf: Introduce dma_buf_get_pfn_unlocked() kAPI Xu Yilun
2025-01-08  8:01   ` Christian König
2025-01-08 13:23     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-08 13:44       ` Christian König
2025-01-08 14:58         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-08 15:25           ` Christian König
2025-01-08 16:22             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-08 17:56               ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-10 19:24                 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-10 20:16                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-08 18:44               ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-08 19:22                 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-09  8:04                   ` Christian König
2025-01-08 23:06                     ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-10 19:34                       ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-10 20:38                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-12 22:10                           ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-14 14:44                           ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-14 17:31                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-15  8:55                               ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-15  9:32                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-15 13:34                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-16  5:33                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-19 23:39                                       ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-16 13:28                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-15 10:06                                 ` Christian König
2025-01-17 14:42                                   ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-20 12:14                                     ` Christian König
2025-01-20 17:59                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-20 18:50                                         ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-20 19:48                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-21 16:11                                             ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-21 17:36                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-22 11:04                                                 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-22 13:28                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-22 13:29                                                   ` Christian König
2025-01-22 14:37                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-22 14:59                                                       ` Christian König
2025-01-23 13:59                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-23 14:32                                                           ` Christian König
2025-01-23 14:35                                                             ` Christian König
2025-01-23 15:02                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-23 15:48                                                                 ` Christian König
2025-01-23 16:08                                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-09  8:09                     ` Christian König
2025-01-10 20:54                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-15  9:38                         ` Christian König
2025-01-15 13:38                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-15 13:45                             ` Christian König
2025-01-15 13:46                               ` Christian König
2025-01-15 14:14                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-15 14:29                                   ` Christian König
2025-01-15 14:30                                     ` Christian König
2025-01-15 15:10                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-15 16:34                                         ` Christian König
2025-01-15 17:09                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-16 15:13                                             ` Christian König
2024-06-20 22:02                                               ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-20 13:44                                                 ` Christian König
2025-01-22  4:16                                                   ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-16 16:07                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-17 14:37                                                 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-09  9:10               ` Christian König
2025-01-09  9:28                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] vfio: Export vfio device get and put registration helpers Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] vfio/pci: Share the core device pointer while invoking feature functions Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] vfio/pci: Allow MMIO regions to be exported through dma-buf Xu Yilun
2026-05-06  2:35   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-05-06 13:16     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-07  7:16       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-05-11 12:01         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-11 23:42         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-05-11 23:56           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-12  5:49             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] vfio/pci: Support get_pfn() callback for dma-buf Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] KVM: Support vfio_dmabuf backed MMIO region Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] KVM: x86/mmu: Handle page fault for vfio_dmabuf backed MMIO Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] vfio/pci: Create host unaccessible dma-buf for private device Xu Yilun
2025-01-08 13:30   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-08 16:57     ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-09 14:40       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-09 16:40         ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-10 13:31           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-11  3:48             ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-13 16:49               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-17 23:28                 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-14 13:35                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-15 12:57                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-15 13:01                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-17  1:57                         ` Baolu Lu
2025-01-17 13:25                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-23 19:59                             ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-20 13:25                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-24 21:12                                 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-21 17:43                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-22  4:32                                     ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-22 12:55                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-23  7:41                                         ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-23 13:08                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-20  4:41                             ` Baolu Lu
2025-01-20  9:45                             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-20 13:28                               ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-03-12  1:37                                 ` Dan Williams
2025-03-17 16:38                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] vfio/pci: Export vfio dma-buf specific info for importers Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] KVM: vfio_dmabuf: Fetch VFIO specific dma-buf data for sanity check Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] KVM: x86/mmu: Export kvm_is_mmio_pfn() Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] KVM: TDX: Implement TDX specific private MMIO map/unmap for SEPT Xu Yilun
2025-04-29  6:48 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] Private MMIO support for private assigned dev Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-29  7:50   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-09  3:04     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-09 11:12       ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-09 16:28         ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-09 18:43           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-10  3:47             ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-12  9:30               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-12 14:06                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-13 10:03                   ` Zhi Wang
2025-05-14  9:47                     ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-14 20:05                       ` Zhi Wang
2025-05-15 18:02                         ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-15 19:21                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16  6:19                             ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-16 12:49                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-17  2:33                                 ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-20 10:57                           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-24  3:33                             ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-15 10:29                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-15 16:44                       ` Zhi Wang
2025-05-15 16:53                         ` Zhi Wang
2025-05-21 10:41                           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-14  7:02                   ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-14 16:33                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 16:04                       ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-15 17:56                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16  6:03                           ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-22  3:45                         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-24  3:13                           ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-26  7:18                             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-29 14:41                               ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-29 16:29                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-30 16:07                                   ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-30  2:29                                 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-30 16:23                                   ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-10  4:20                                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-06-10  5:19                                       ` Baolu Lu
2025-06-10  6:53                                       ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-14  3:20                 ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-10  4:37                   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy

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