All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Marc Dionne <marc.dionne@auristor.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-afs@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net 03/24] crypto: Add 'krb5enc' hash and cipher AEAD algorithm
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 20:04:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250207200419.GA2819332@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250203142343.248839-4-dhowells@redhat.com>

On Mon, Feb 03, 2025 at 02:23:19PM +0000, David Howells wrote:
> [!] Note that the net/sunrpc/auth_gss/ implementation gets a pair of
> ciphers, one non-CTS and one CTS, using the former to do all the aligned
> blocks and the latter to do the last two blocks if they aren't also
> aligned.  It may be necessary to do this here too for performance reasons -
> but there are considerations both ways:
> 
>  (1) firstly, there is an optimised assembly version of cts(cbc(aes)) on
>      x86_64 that should be used instead of having two ciphers;
> 
>  (2) secondly, none of the hardware offload drivers seem to offer CTS
>      support (Intel QAT does not, for instance).
> 
> However, I don't know if it's possible to query the crypto API to find out
> whether there's an optimised CTS algorithm available.

Linux's "cts" is specifically the CS3 variant of CTS (using the terminology of
NIST SP800-38A https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.5555/2206248) which unconditionally
swaps the last two blocks.  Is that the variant that is needed here?  SP800-38A
mentions that CS3 is the variant used in Kerberos 5, so I assume yes.  If yes,
then you need to use cts(cbc(aes)) unconditionally.  (BTW, I hope you have some
test that shows that you actually implemented the Kerberos protocol correctly?)

x86_64 already has an AES-NI assembly optimized cts(cbc(aes)), as you mentioned.
I will probably add a VAES optimized cts(cbc(aes)) at some point; I've just been
doing other modes first.  I don't see why off-CPU hardware offload support
should deserve much attention here, given the extremely high speed of on-CPU
crypto these days and the great difficulty of integrating off-CPU acceleration
efficiently.  In particular it seems weird to consider Intel QAT a reasonable
thing to use over VAES.  Regardless, absent direct support for cts(cbc(aes)) the
cts template will build it on top of cbc(aes) anyway.

- Eric


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-02-07 20:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-03 14:23 [PATCH net 00/24] net/rxrpc, crypto: Add Kerberos crypto lib and AF_RXRPC GSSAPI security class David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 01/24] crypto/krb5: Add API Documentation David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 02/24] crypto/krb5: Add some constants out of sunrpc headers David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 03/24] crypto: Add 'krb5enc' hash and cipher AEAD algorithm David Howells
2025-02-07  8:56   ` Herbert Xu
2025-02-09 17:53     ` David Howells
2025-02-07 20:04   ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2025-02-09 18:37     ` David Howells
2025-02-09 19:05       ` Eric Biggers
2025-02-10  8:10       ` Herbert Xu
2025-03-18 10:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-03-18 11:09     ` David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 04/24] crypto/krb5: Test manager data David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 05/24] crypto/krb5: Implement Kerberos crypto core David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 06/24] crypto/krb5: Add an API to query the layout of the crypto section David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 07/24] crypto/krb5: Add an API to alloc and prepare a crypto object David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 08/24] crypto/krb5: Add an API to perform requests David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 09/24] crypto/krb5: Provide infrastructure and key derivation David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 10/24] crypto/krb5: Implement the Kerberos5 rfc3961 " David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 11/24] crypto/krb5: Provide RFC3961 setkey packaging functions David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 12/24] crypto/krb5: Implement the Kerberos5 rfc3961 encrypt and decrypt functions David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 13/24] crypto/krb5: Implement the Kerberos5 rfc3961 get_mic and verify_mic David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 14/24] crypto/krb5: Implement the AES enctypes from rfc3962 David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 15/24] crypto/krb5: Implement the AES enctypes from rfc8009 David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 16/24] crypto/krb5: Implement the Camellia enctypes from rfc6803 David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 17/24] crypto/krb5: Implement crypto self-testing David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 18/24] rxrpc: Pull out certain app callback funcs into an ops table David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 19/24] rxrpc: Pass CHALLENGE packets to the call for recvmsg() to respond to David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 20/24] rxrpc: Add the security index for yfs-rxgk David Howells
2025-02-06  9:54   ` Jeffrey Altman
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 21/24] rxrpc: Add YFS RxGK (GSSAPI) security class David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 22/24] rxrpc: rxgk: Provide infrastructure and key derivation David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 23/24] rxrpc: rxgk: Implement the yfs-rxgk security class (GSSAPI) David Howells
2025-02-03 14:23 ` [PATCH net 24/24] rxrpc: rxgk: Implement connection rekeying David Howells
2025-02-03 14:51 ` [PATCH net 00/24] net/rxrpc, crypto: Add Kerberos crypto lib and AF_RXRPC GSSAPI security class David Howells

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20250207200419.GA2819332@google.com \
    --to=ebiggers@kernel.org \
    --cc=ardb@kernel.org \
    --cc=chuck.lever@oracle.com \
    --cc=davem@davemloft.net \
    --cc=dhowells@redhat.com \
    --cc=edumazet@google.com \
    --cc=herbert@gondor.apana.org.au \
    --cc=horms@kernel.org \
    --cc=kuba@kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-afs@lists.infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=marc.dionne@auristor.com \
    --cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=pabeni@redhat.com \
    --cc=trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.