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From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, coreteam@netfilter.org,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
	Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@netfilter.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/3] netfilter: Make xt_table::private RCU protected.
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 17:20:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250217162053.GB14330@breakpoint.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250217155659.jHVTdebO@linutronix.de>

Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> wrote:
> On 2025-02-17 16:35:48 [+0100], Florian Westphal wrote:
> > I suspect this is whats used by 'iptables -L -v -Z INPUT'.
> > But I don't know if anyone uses this in practice.
> 
> Oh. Wonderful. So even if skip counter updates after pointer
> replacement, the damage is very limited.

Yes, I think so.

> > I think we might get away with losing counters on the update
> > side, i.e. rcu_update_pointer() so new CPUs won't find the old
> > binary blob, copy the counters, then defer destruction via rcu_work
> > or similar and accept that the counters might have marginally
> > changed after the copy to userland and before last cpu left its
> > rcu critical section.
> 
> I could do that if we want to accelerate it. That is if we don't have
> the muscle to point people to iptables-nft or iptables-legacy-restore.
> 
> Speaking of: Are there plans to remove the legacy interface? This could
> be used as meet the users ;) But seriously, the nft part is around for
> quite some time and there is not downside to it.

Yes, since 6c959fd5e17387201dba3619b2e6af213939a0a7
the legacy symbol is user visible so next step is to replace
various "select ...TABLES_LEGACY" with "depends on" clauses.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-17 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-16 12:51 [PATCH net-next 0/3] Replace xt_recseq with u64_stats Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-16 12:51 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] netfilter: Make xt_table::private RCU protected Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-17 14:05   ` Florian Westphal
2025-02-17 14:57     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-17 15:35       ` Florian Westphal
2025-02-17 15:56         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-17 16:20           ` Florian Westphal [this message]
2025-02-18  8:18             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-18 12:46               ` Florian Westphal
2025-02-16 12:51 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] netfilter: Split the xt_counters type between kernel and user Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-16 15:22   ` kernel test robot
2025-02-16 12:51 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] netfilter: Use u64_stats for counters in xt_counters_k Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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