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From: Dimitri Fedrau <dima.fedrau@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: dimitri.fedrau@liebherr.com,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/3] net: phy: dp83822: Add support for changing the MAC series termination
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2025 15:22:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250307142252.GA2326148@legfed1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6aee57d3-8657-44d6-ac21-9f443ca0924e@lunn.ch>

Am Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 02:39:32PM +0100 schrieb Andrew Lunn:
> On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 11:30:00AM +0100, Dimitri Fedrau via B4 Relay wrote:
> > The dp83822 provides the possibility to set the resistance value of the
> > the MAC series termination. Modifying the resistance to an appropriate
> > value can reduce signal reflections and therefore improve signal quality.
> 
> I have some dumb questions....
> 
> By referring to MAC from the perspective of the PHY, do you mean the
> termination of the bus between the MAC and the PHY? The SGMII SERDES,
> or RGMII?
>
- Yes, the perspective is from the PHY.
- Yes, but only the outputs towards the MAC. Resistors can be saved on
  the PCB when they are integrated into the PHY.
- The PHY is able to operate with RGMII, RMII and MII.

Should I rename then "mac-series-termination-ohms" to
"output-mac-series-termination-ohms" or similar ?

> I'm assuming the terminology is direct from the datasheet of the PHY?
> But since this is a bit of a niche area, no other PHY driver currently
> supports anythings like this, the terminology is not well known. So it
> would be good to expand the description, to make it really clear what
> you are talking about, so if anybody else wants to add the same
> feature, they make use of the property, not add a new property.

The datasheet calls it MAC impedance control, that is what someone might
want to achieve when selecting the proper resistance value. I named it
"mac-series-termination-ohms" instead to make sure what is done to
achieve impedance matching.

Should I add the proper description in the bindings ? Description of the
properties are somehow short. However will expand the description.

Best regards,
Dimitri Fedrau

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-07 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-07 10:30 [PATCH net-next 0/3] net: phy: dp83822: Add support for changing the MAC series termination Dimitri Fedrau
2025-03-07 10:30 ` Dimitri Fedrau via B4 Relay
2025-03-07 10:30 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] dt-bindings: net: ethernet-phy: add property mac-series-termination-ohms Dimitri Fedrau
2025-03-07 10:30   ` Dimitri Fedrau via B4 Relay
2025-03-11 17:33   ` Rob Herring
2025-03-11 18:06     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-03-07 10:30 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] net: phy: Add helper for getting MAC series termination resistance Dimitri Fedrau
2025-03-07 10:30   ` Dimitri Fedrau via B4 Relay
2025-03-07 10:30 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] net: phy: dp83822: Add support for changing the MAC series termination Dimitri Fedrau
2025-03-07 10:30   ` Dimitri Fedrau via B4 Relay
2025-03-07 13:39 ` [PATCH net-next 0/3] " Andrew Lunn
2025-03-07 14:22   ` Dimitri Fedrau [this message]
2025-03-07 15:34     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-03-07 19:23       ` Dimitri Fedrau

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