From: Luca Ceresoli <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>
To: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 00/11] drm/bridge: add devm_drm_bridge_alloc() with bridge refcount
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 08:41:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250320084118.347bafc9@booty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250319-stylish-lime-mongoose-0a18ad@houat>
Hello Mazime,
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 17:16:53 +0100
Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 03:56:07PM +0100, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
> > Hello Maxime,
> >
> > On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 19:21:01 +0100
> > Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 11:31:13AM +0100, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
> > > > This series improves the way DRM bridges are allocated and
> > > > initialized and makes them reference-counted. The goal of reference
> > > > counting is to avoid use-after-free by drivers which got a pointer
> > > > to a bridge and keep it stored and used even after the bridge has
> > > > been deallocated.
> > > >
> > > > The overall goal is supporting Linux devices with a DRM pipeline
> > > > whose final components can be hot-plugged and hot-unplugged,
> > > > including one or more bridges. For more details see the big picture
> > > > [0].
> > > >
> > > > DRM bridge drivers will have to be adapted to the new API, which is
> > > > pretty simple for most cases. Refcounting will have to be adopted
> > > > on the two sides: all functions returning a bridge pointer and all
> > > > code obtaining such a pointer. This series has just an overview of
> > > > some of those conversions, because for now the main goal is to
> > > > agree on the API.
> > > >
> > > > Series layout:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Add the new API and refcounting:
> > > >
> > > > drm/bridge: add devm_drm_bridge_alloc()
> > > > drm/bridge: add support for refcounting
> > > >
> > > > 2. get/put the reference in basic operations in the bridge core:
> > > >
> > > > drm/bridge: get/put the bridge reference in
> > > > drm_bridge_add/remove() drm/bridge: get/put the bridge reference in
> > > > drm_bridge_attach/detach()
> > > >
> > > > 3. as an example of changes for bridge consumers, get a reference
> > > > for the bridge returned by drm_bridge_chain_get_first_bridge(),
> > > > have it put by all callers (all users will be covered later on
> > > > separately):
> > > >
> > > > drm/bridge: add a cleanup action for scope-based
> > > > drm_bridge_put() invocation drm/bridge: get the bridge returned by
> > > > drm_bridge_chain_get_first_bridge() drm/mxsfb: put the bridge
> > > > returned by drm_bridge_chain_get_first_bridge() drm/atomic-helper:
> > > > put the bridge returned by drm_bridge_chain_get_first_bridge()
> > > > drm/probe-helper: put the bridge returned by
> > > > drm_bridge_chain_get_first_bridge()
> > > >
> > > > 4. convert a few bridge drivers (bridge providers) to the new API:
> > > >
> > > > drm/bridge: ti-sn65dsi83: use dynamic lifetime management
> > > > drm/bridge: samsung-dsim: use dynamic lifetime management
> > > >
> > > > This work was formerly a part of my v6 DRM bridge hotplug
> > > > series[0], now split as a standalone series with many improvements,
> > > > hence the "v7" version number.
> > >
> > > Except for one patch where I had comments, I think the series is in
> > > excellent shape. We're still missing a couple of things to close this
> > > topic though:
> > >
> > > - Converting the other bridge iterators/accessors to take / put the
> > > references
> >
> > I sent a couple in this series as you had asked, to show how conversion
> > looks like. But I have a large part of this conversion partially done
> > already, and it is the largest part of the refcounting work in terms of
> > touched files due to the large number of drivers using the iterators
> > and accessors. Here are the functions to convert:
> >
> > A) drm_bridge_chain_get_first_bridge
> > B) drm_bridge_get_prev_bridge
> > C) drm_bridge_get_next_bridge
> > D) drm_for_each_bridge_in_chain
> > E) drm_bridge_connector_init
> > F) of_drm_find_bridge
> >
> > A) is present in this series as an example but I don't think it should
> > be applied until all bridge drivers are converted to
> > drm_bridge_alloc(). Otherwise for not-yet-converted bridge drivers we'd
> > have drm_bridge_get/put() operating on an uninitialized kref, and
> > __drm_bridge_free() called on non-refcounted bridges, so I think we'd
> > see fireworks.
> >
> > In the previous iteration I used drm_bridge_is_refcounted() in
> > drm_bridge_get/put() to allow a progressive migration, but if we want
> > to convert everything in a single run we need to first convert all
> > bridges to drm_bridge_alloc() and then convert all accessors.
> >
> > The same reasoning applies to patches 3-4 which add get/put to
> > drm_bridge_add/remove() and _attach/detach().
>
> Agreed.
>
> > B) to E) are ready in my work branch, about 20 patches in total.
> > Indeed item E) is a special case but it is handled there too.
> >
> > Item F) is the beast, because of the reverse call graph of
> > of_drm_find_bridge() which includes drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() and
> > then *_of_get_bridge(), each having a few dozen callers, and leading
> > to the panel_bridge topic. I have converted maybe half of the users of
> > accessors in F), it's 35 patches but it's the easy half and I still need
> > to tackle to hardest ones.
>
> One thing to keep in mind is that, while it's not correct, if the bridge
> has been allocated with devm_drm_bridge_alloc, it's not worse either. If
> you're not getting a reference to your pointer, the point is buggy,
> sure, but it's just as buggy as before, and in the same situations.
>
> So we can make that gradually if it's more convenient.
I see your point, right. And definitely doing it in gradually will help.
> One way to solve it would be that, for example, of_drm_find_bridge is
> oddly named according to our convention and it would make more sense to
> be called drm_of_find_bridge().
>
> So maybe we can just create drm_of_find_bridge() that takes a reference,
> make of_drm_find_bridge() deprecated in favour of drm_of_find_bridge(),
> add a TODO, and call it a day. People will gradually switch to the new
> API over time.
Thanks for the suggestion, I will certainly try this way when I get
back to the accessor conversion work. While increasing the number of
deprecated functions is not great, I'm starting to suspect a conversion
of _all_ the of_drm_find_bridge() users at once is not realistic.
> > > - Documenting somewhere (possibly in drm_bridge_init?) that it
> > > really shouldn't be used anymore
> >
> > I'm afraid there is no drm_bridge_init(), bridge drivers just do
> > [devm_]kzalloc and set fields explicitly. So I don't think there is a
> > place to document this.
>
> Oh, right.
>
> Then, drm_bridge_add() would be a good candidate too to mention that
> bridges must be allocated using devm_drm_bridge_alloc().
Sure. I'll add such a comment.
> > Overall, I think this could be the path forward, let me know if
> > youthink it should be done differently:
> >
> > A. have patches 1 and 2 of this series applied
> > (why not, even patches 10-11)
>
> I had some comments on patch 2, but it's ok for me on principle.
Sorry, my wording was not clear. I really meant "have patches 1 and 2 of
this series applied after the improvements proposed". So hopefully the
v8 I'm sending today-ish. I'm going to send only patches 1, 2, 10 and
11. The other patches are not meant to be merged now, so I'm resending
them when appropriate.
Luca
--
Luca Ceresoli, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com
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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-14 10:31 [PATCH v7 00/11] drm/bridge: add devm_drm_bridge_alloc() with bridge refcount Luca Ceresoli
2025-03-14 10:31 ` [PATCH v7 01/11] drm/bridge: add devm_drm_bridge_alloc() Luca Ceresoli
2025-03-14 17:58 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-14 10:31 ` [PATCH v7 02/11] drm/bridge: add support for refcounting Luca Ceresoli
2025-03-14 18:04 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-17 14:56 ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-03-14 10:31 ` [PATCH v7 03/11] drm/bridge: get/put the bridge reference in drm_bridge_add/remove() Luca Ceresoli
2025-03-14 18:04 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-14 10:31 ` [PATCH v7 04/11] drm/bridge: get/put the bridge reference in drm_bridge_attach/detach() Luca Ceresoli
2025-03-14 18:05 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-14 10:31 ` [PATCH v7 05/11] drm/bridge: add a cleanup action for scope-based drm_bridge_put() invocation Luca Ceresoli
2025-03-14 18:08 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-17 14:57 ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-03-14 10:31 ` [PATCH v7 06/11] drm/bridge: get the bridge returned by drm_bridge_chain_get_first_bridge() Luca Ceresoli
2025-03-14 18:10 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-17 14:57 ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-03-14 10:31 ` [PATCH v7 07/11] drm/mxsfb: put " Luca Ceresoli
2025-03-14 18:11 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-14 10:31 ` [PATCH v7 08/11] drm/atomic-helper: " Luca Ceresoli
2025-03-14 18:12 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-14 10:31 ` [PATCH v7 09/11] drm/probe-helper: " Luca Ceresoli
2025-03-14 18:12 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-14 10:31 ` [PATCH v7 10/11] drm/bridge: ti-sn65dsi83: use dynamic lifetime management Luca Ceresoli
2025-03-14 18:17 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-14 10:31 ` [PATCH v7 11/11] drm/bridge: samsung-dsim: " Luca Ceresoli
2025-03-14 18:18 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-14 18:21 ` [PATCH v7 00/11] drm/bridge: add devm_drm_bridge_alloc() with bridge refcount Maxime Ripard
2025-03-17 14:56 ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-03-19 16:16 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-20 7:41 ` Luca Ceresoli [this message]
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