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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 14/15] fuse: Implement multi-threading
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 09:20:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250402132033.GA304512@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <hd3fxmjcwp5nvaqtv6sgxftkmlvvrobgvyd5w25jlklimjvdja@gboyi4q4ggks>

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On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 03:36:40PM -0500, Eric Blake wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 11:55:57AM -0400, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 05:06:54PM +0100, Hanna Czenczek wrote:
> > > FUSE allows creating multiple request queues by "cloning" /dev/fuse FDs
> > > (via open("/dev/fuse") + ioctl(FUSE_DEV_IOC_CLONE)).
> > > 
> > > We can use this to implement multi-threading.
> > > 
> > > Note that the interface presented here differs from the multi-queue
> > > interface of virtio-blk: The latter maps virtqueues to iothreads, which
> > > allows processing multiple virtqueues in a single iothread.  The
> > > equivalent (processing multiple FDs in a single iothread) would not make
> > > sense for FUSE because those FDs are used in a round-robin fashion by
> > > the FUSE kernel driver.  Putting two of them into a single iothread will
> > > just create a bottleneck.
> > 
> > This text might be outdated. virtio-blk's new iothread-vq-mapping
> > parameter provides the "array of iothreads" mentioned below and a way to
> > assign virtqueues to those IOThreads.
> > 
> 
> > > +++ b/qapi/block-export.json
> > > @@ -179,12 +179,18 @@
> > >  #     mount the export with allow_other, and if that fails, try again
> > >  #     without.  (since 6.1; default: auto)
> > >  #
> > > +# @iothreads: Enables multi-threading: Handle requests in each of the
> > > +#     given iothreads (instead of the block device's iothread, or the
> > > +#     export's "main" iothread).  For this, the FUSE FD is duplicated so
> > > +#     there is one FD per iothread.  (since 10.1)
> > 
> > This option isn't FUSE-specific but FUSE is the first export type to
> > support it. Please add it to BlockExportOptions instead and refuse
> > export creation when the export type only supports 1 IOThread.
> > 
> > Eric: Are you interested in implementing support for multiple IOThreads
> > in the NBD export? I remember some time ago we talked about NBD
> > multi-conn support, although maybe that was for the client rather than
> > the server.
> 
> The NBD server already supports clients that make requests through
> multiple TCP sockets, but right now, that server is not taking
> advantage of iothreads to spread the TCP load.
> 
> And yes, I am in the middle of working on adding client NBD multi-conn
> support (reviving Rich Jones' preliminary patches on what it would
> take to have qemu open parallel TCP sockets to a supporting NBD
> server), which also will use a round-robin approach (but here, the
> round-robin is something we would code up in qemu, rather than the
> behavior handed to us by the FUSE kernel layer).  Pinning specific
> iothreads to a specific TCP socket may or may not make sense, but I
> definitely want to have support for handing a pool of iothreads to an
> NBD client that will be using multi-conn.

Here I'm asking Hanna to make the "iothreads" export parameter generic
for all export types (not just for FUSE). Do you think that the NBD
export will be able to use the generic parameter or would you prefer an
NBD-specific export parameter?

Stefan

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-02 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-25 16:05 [PATCH 00/15] export/fuse: Use coroutines and multi-threading Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-25 16:06 ` [PATCH 01/15] fuse: Copy write buffer content before polling Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-27 14:47   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-04-04 11:17     ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-04-01 13:44   ` Eric Blake
2025-04-04 11:18     ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-25 16:06 ` [PATCH 02/15] fuse: Ensure init clean-up even with error_fatal Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-26  5:47   ` Markus Armbruster
2025-03-26  9:49     ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-27 14:51   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-03-25 16:06 ` [PATCH 03/15] fuse: Remove superfluous empty line Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-27 14:53   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-03-25 16:06 ` [PATCH 04/15] fuse: Explicitly set inode ID to 1 Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-27 14:54   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-03-25 16:06 ` [PATCH 05/15] fuse: Change setup_... to mount_fuse_export() Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-27 14:55   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-03-25 16:06 ` [PATCH 06/15] fuse: Fix mount options Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-27 14:58   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-03-25 16:06 ` [PATCH 07/15] fuse: Set direct_io and parallel_direct_writes Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-27 15:09   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-03-25 16:06 ` [PATCH 08/15] fuse: Introduce fuse_{at,de}tach_handlers() Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-27 15:12   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-04-01 13:55   ` Eric Blake
2025-04-04 11:24     ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-25 16:06 ` [PATCH 09/15] fuse: Introduce fuse_{inc,dec}_in_flight() Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-27 15:13   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-03-25 16:06 ` [PATCH 10/15] fuse: Add halted flag Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-27 15:15   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-03-25 16:06 ` [PATCH 11/15] fuse: Manually process requests (without libfuse) Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-27 15:35   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-04-04 12:36     ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-04-01 14:35   ` Eric Blake
2025-04-04 11:30     ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-04-04 11:42     ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-25 16:06 ` [PATCH 12/15] fuse: Reduce max read size Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-27 15:35   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-03-25 16:06 ` [PATCH 13/15] fuse: Process requests in coroutines Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-27 15:38   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-03-25 16:06 ` [PATCH 14/15] fuse: Implement multi-threading Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-26  5:38   ` Markus Armbruster
2025-03-26  9:55     ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-26 11:41       ` Markus Armbruster
2025-03-26 13:56         ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-27 12:18           ` Markus Armbruster via
2025-03-27 13:45             ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-04-01 12:05               ` Kevin Wolf
2025-04-01 20:31                 ` Eric Blake
2025-04-04 12:45                 ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-27 15:55   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-04-01 20:36     ` Eric Blake
2025-04-02 13:20       ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2025-04-03 17:59         ` Eric Blake
2025-04-04 12:49     ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-04-07 14:02       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-04-01 14:58   ` Eric Blake
2025-03-25 16:06 ` [PATCH 15/15] fuse: Increase MAX_WRITE_SIZE with a second buffer Hanna Czenczek
2025-03-27 15:59   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-04-01 20:24   ` Eric Blake
2025-04-04 13:04     ` Hanna Czenczek

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