From: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@yandex-team.ru>,
Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Hanna Reitz <hreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] nbd: Add multi-conn option
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 10:14:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250429091422.GG1450@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877c33qzzn.fsf@pond.sub.org>
On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 07:49:00AM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com> writes:
>
> > From: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
> >
> > Add multi-conn option to the NBD client. This commit just adds the
> > option, it is not functional.
> >
> > Setting this to a value > 1 permits multiple connections to the NBD
> > server; a typical value might be 4. The default is 1, meaning only a
> > single connection is made. If the NBD server does not advertise that
> > it is safe for multi-conn then this setting is forced to 1.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@redhat.com>
> > [eblake: also expose it through QMP]
> > Signed-off-by: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
> > ---
> > qapi/block-core.json | 8 +++++++-
> > block/nbd.c | 24 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > 2 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/qapi/block-core.json b/qapi/block-core.json
> > index 7f70ec6d3cb..5c10824f35b 100644
> > --- a/qapi/block-core.json
> > +++ b/qapi/block-core.json
> > @@ -4545,6 +4545,11 @@
> > # until successful or until @open-timeout seconds have elapsed.
> > # Default 0 (Since 7.0)
> > #
> > +# @multi-conn: Request the number of parallel client connections to make
> > +# to the server, up to 16. If the server does not advertise support
> > +# for multiple connections, or if this value is 0 or 1, all traffic
> > +# is sent through a single connection. Default 1 (Since 10.1)
> > +#
>
> So we silently ignore @multi-conn when its value is (nonsensical) zero,
> and when the server doesn't let us honor the value. Hmm. Silently
> ignoring the user's wishes can result in confusion. Should we reject
> instead?
We could certainly reject 0. It's also possible to reject the case
where multi-conn is not supported by the server, but is requested by
the client, but I feel that's a bit user-unfriendly. After all,
multi-conn isn't essential for it to work, it's needed if you want
best performance. (Maybe issue a warning in the code - below - where
we set multi-conn back to 1? I don't know what qemu thinks about
warnings.)
> > # Features:
> > #
> > # @unstable: Member @x-dirty-bitmap is experimental.
> > @@ -4558,7 +4563,8 @@
> > '*tls-hostname': 'str',
> > '*x-dirty-bitmap': { 'type': 'str', 'features': [ 'unstable' ] },
> > '*reconnect-delay': 'uint32',
> > - '*open-timeout': 'uint32' } }
> > + '*open-timeout': 'uint32',
> > + '*multi-conn': 'uint32' } }
> >
> > ##
> > # @BlockdevOptionsRaw:
> > diff --git a/block/nbd.c b/block/nbd.c
> > index d5a2b21c6d1..5eb00e360af 100644
> > --- a/block/nbd.c
> > +++ b/block/nbd.c
> > @@ -48,6 +48,7 @@
> >
> > #define EN_OPTSTR ":exportname="
> > #define MAX_NBD_REQUESTS 16
> > +#define MAX_MULTI_CONN 16
>
> Out of curiosity: where does this value come from?
So I should note first this is a maximum, not a recommendation.
nbdcopy defaults to 4, which was derived from testing on a high end
(for 2024) AMD machine. Above 4 performance doesn't increase any
further on that machine. It's going to very much depend on how many
cores you have spare, how many TCP connections you want to open, and
how effectively the client and server handle parallelism.
And imponderables like one we hit in virt-v2v: If accessing a VMware
server, the VMware server actually slows down as you add more
connections, even though it should theoretically support multi-conn.
We ended up forcing multi-conn to 1 in this case. You can't know this
in advance from the client side.
> >
> > #define COOKIE_TO_INDEX(cookie) ((cookie) - 1)
> > #define INDEX_TO_COOKIE(index) ((index) + 1)
> > @@ -97,6 +98,7 @@ typedef struct BDRVNBDState {
> > /* Connection parameters */
> > uint32_t reconnect_delay;
> > uint32_t open_timeout;
> > + uint32_t multi_conn;
> > SocketAddress *saddr;
> > char *export;
> > char *tlscredsid;
> > @@ -1840,6 +1842,15 @@ static QemuOptsList nbd_runtime_opts = {
> > "attempts until successful or until @open-timeout seconds "
> > "have elapsed. Default 0",
> > },
> > + {
> > + .name = "multi-conn",
> > + .type = QEMU_OPT_NUMBER,
> > + .help = "If > 1 permit up to this number of connections to the "
> > + "server. The server must also advertise multi-conn "
> > + "support. If <= 1, only a single connection is made "
> > + "to the server even if the server advertises multi-conn. "
> > + "Default 1",
>
> This text implies the requested value is silently limited to the value
> provided by the server, unlike the doc comment above. Although the
> "must" in "the sever must" could also be understood as "error when it
> doesn't".
I'll just note that multi-conn is a boolean flag advertised by the
server. Servers don't advertise any preferred number of connections.
I don't know how to improve the text.
> > + },
> > { /* end of list */ }
> > },
> > };
> > @@ -1895,6 +1906,10 @@ static int nbd_process_options(BlockDriverState *bs, QDict *options,
> >
> > s->reconnect_delay = qemu_opt_get_number(opts, "reconnect-delay", 0);
> > s->open_timeout = qemu_opt_get_number(opts, "open-timeout", 0);
> > + s->multi_conn = qemu_opt_get_number(opts, "multi-conn", 1);
> > + if (s->multi_conn > MAX_MULTI_CONN) {
> > + s->multi_conn = MAX_MULTI_CONN;
> > + }
>
> We silently cap the user's requested number to 16. Not clear from QAPI
> schema doc comment; the "up to 16" there suggests more is an error.
> Should we error out instead?
>
> >
> > ret = 0;
> >
> > @@ -1949,6 +1964,15 @@ static int nbd_open(BlockDriverState *bs, QDict *options, int flags,
> >
> > nbd_client_connection_enable_retry(s->conn);
> >
> > + /*
> > + * We set s->multi_conn in nbd_process_options above, but now that
> > + * we have connected if the server doesn't advertise that it is
> > + * safe for multi-conn, force it to 1.
> > + */
> > + if (!(s->info.flags & NBD_FLAG_CAN_MULTI_CONN)) {
> > + s->multi_conn = 1;
> > + }
> > +
> > return 0;
> >
> > fail:
Rich.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-29 9:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-28 18:46 [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] Revival of patches to implement NBD client multi-conn Eric Blake
2025-04-28 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] nbd: Add multi-conn option Eric Blake
2025-04-29 5:49 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-29 9:14 ` Richard W.M. Jones [this message]
2025-04-29 11:01 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-29 11:19 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2025-04-29 11:31 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-05-27 22:01 ` Eric Blake
2025-05-28 6:10 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-05-22 17:38 ` Andrey Drobyshev
2025-05-22 18:44 ` Eric Blake
2025-05-23 11:03 ` Andrey Drobyshev
2025-05-23 12:59 ` Eric Blake
2025-04-28 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] nbd: Split out block device state from underlying NBD connections Eric Blake
2025-04-28 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] nbd: Open multiple NBD connections if multi-conn is set Eric Blake
2025-04-28 18:46 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] nbd: Enable multi-conn using round-robin Eric Blake
2025-04-28 19:27 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2025-04-28 21:32 ` Eric Blake
2025-05-22 17:37 ` Andrey Drobyshev
2025-05-22 18:45 ` Eric Blake
2025-04-29 8:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] Revival of patches to implement NBD client multi-conn Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-04-29 12:03 ` Denis V. Lunev
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