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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Prashant Upadhyaya <praupadhyaya@gmail.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: Regarding Mellanox bifurcated driver on Azure
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 07:28:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250430072825.13ceae3e@hermes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPBAu3XDwr82ghjdhK=QXO53OPH3MgUtkP7r3TLEwOnHe_St5w@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 13:00:53 +0530
Prashant Upadhyaya <praupadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:

> > With DPDK on Azure, an application should never use the VF directly.
> > It needs to use either netvsc PMD which handles both the vmbus (slow path)
> > and VF (fast path) combined. Or use the older vdev_netvsc/failsafe/tap
> > combination.
> > The latter uses a virtual device to make a failsafe PMD which then does
> > a combination of TAP (via kernel slow path) and MLX5 VF.  The failsafe PMD
> > is what is exposed for application usage.
> >
> > The limitations are not explicitly mentioned in the documentation but:
> >   - don't use VF directly in application
> >   - there is no support for bifurcation where some packets go to kernel
> >     and some to DPDK
> >   - there is only very limited support for rte_flow; that is with failsafe
> > PMD
> >     (not netvsc PMD) and the limitations are that the emulation of rte_flow
> >     in the TAP device only supports a few things.
> >  
> 
> Thanks Stephen, the above information was very instructive.
> If I do use the Netvsc PMD with the latest DPDK, will my DPDK app get the
> non IP packets like ARP, please confirm.
> I quickly tried the Netvsc PMD but don't seem to be getting the ARP packets
> in still.
> When you mention "The failsafe PMD is what is exposed for application
> usage", what is the meaning of this, are the apps expected to use failsafe
> PMD, please suggest.
> 
> Regards
> -Prashant

ARP handled differently in virtual network environments. The ARP packets sent
get consumed and replied to by the network infrastructure (in all virtual networks
not just Azure). Non-IP packets always show up on the synthetic VMBus device.

Current docs are here:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/virtual-network/setup-dpdk?tabs=redhat

See vdev_netvsc for picture. https://doc.dpdk.org/guides/nics/vdev_netvsc.html



  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-30 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-25 17:47 Regarding Mellanox bifurcated driver on Azure Prashant Upadhyaya
2025-04-25 23:01 ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-04-26 15:28 ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-04-28  6:01   ` Prashant Upadhyaya
2025-04-28 15:37     ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-04-29 16:15       ` Prashant Upadhyaya
2025-04-29 16:24         ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-04-30  7:30           ` Prashant Upadhyaya
2025-04-30 14:28             ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2025-04-30 16:30               ` Prashant Upadhyaya
2025-04-30 16:51                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-05-05 14:07                   ` Prashant Upadhyaya

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