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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: [RFC][PATCHES v2] dentry->d_flags locking
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 08:50:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250611075023.GJ299672@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250224-anrief-schwester-33e6ca8774de@brauner>

On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 12:45:49PM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:

> Also mentioned in my other reply: Can you please make the unhashed case
> really explicit ideally at dentry allocation time. IOW, that there's a
> flag or some other way of simply identifying a dentry as belonging to an
> fs that will never hash them?

This really doesn't make sense; on all those filesystems we *do* want
everything positive to be hashed.  So I don't see anything useful that
fs/dcache.c could check, not to mention how much I dislike behaviour
that depends upon "feature flags" in file_system_type in general.

All dentries are allocated unhashed negative; a plenty of such fs
go through the normal lookup helpers when they populate their
trees.  Sure, we could have their ->lookup() just return NULL
and be done with that, but then we'd have to modify the code
that handles attaching the damn things to inodes accordingly...

I don't see any point, especially since it would just create churn
for tree-in-dcache series porting^Wresurrection, which I'm going
to do this weekend.

Or are you talking about DCACHE_DONTCACHE (i.e. "unhash as soon as
refcount hits 0", rather than "never hash it at all")?

Anyway, I have ported the "safe ->d_flags" series (this thread) to
6.16-rc1.  Changes:

* several commits got dropped (merged or, as in afs dynroot case, invalidated)
* procfs flag moved to include/linux/procfs.h, deconflicted.
* tracefs told to set DCACHE_DONTCACHE on everything; it is a behaviour
change, and IMO the correct one.
* in "simple_lookup(): just set DCACHE_DONTCACHE", don't set the flag if
->d_op had been set and DCACHE_DONTCACHE wasn't already present.  That
matches the mainline logics.  See comments in that commit...

Force-pushed into
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/viro/vfs.git #work.dcache
Individual patches in followups; if nobody comes up with objections,
into #for-next it goes.  Folks, please review.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-11  7:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-24  1:06 [RFC] dentry->d_flags locking Al Viro
2025-02-24  1:38 ` Al Viro
2025-02-24 10:35   ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 14:14     ` Al Viro
2025-02-24 21:20       ` [PATCH 01/21] procfs: kill ->proc_dops Al Viro
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 02/21] new helper: d_splice_alias_ops() Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:28           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 03/21] switch procfs from d_set_d_op() to d_splice_alias_ops() Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:29           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 04/21] fuse: no need for special dentry_operations for root dentry Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:29           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-27 14:33           ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 05/21] new helper: set_default_d_op() Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:30           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 06/21] split d_flags calculation out of d_set_d_op() Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:31           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 07/21] set_default_d_op(): calculate the matching value for ->d_flags Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:33           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 08/21] simple_lookup(): just set DCACHE_DONTCACHE Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:34           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 09/21] make d_set_d_op() static Al Viro
2025-02-25 23:09           ` NeilBrown
2025-02-26  8:35           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 10/21] d_alloc_parallel(): set DCACHE_PAR_LOOKUP earlier Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:36           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 11/21] nsfs, pidfs: drop the pointless ->d_delete() Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:37           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 12/21] shmem: no dentry retention past the refcount reaching zero Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:38           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 13/21] devpts, sunrpc: don't bother with ->d_delete or ->d_op, for that matter Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:38           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 14/21] hostfs: don't bother with ->d_op Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:38           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 15/21] kill simple_dentry_operations Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:39           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 16/21] ramfs, hugetlbfs, mqueue: set DCACHE_DONTCACHE Al Viro
2025-02-25 23:25           ` NeilBrown
2025-02-25 23:36             ` Al Viro
2025-02-25 23:40               ` NeilBrown
2025-02-26  8:39           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 17/21] 9p: don't bother with always_delete_dentry Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:40           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 18/21] efivarfs: use DCACHE_DONTCACHE instead of always_delete_dentry() Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:40           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 19/21] debugfs: use DCACHE_DONTCACHE Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:40           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 20/21] configfs: " Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:40           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 21:20         ` [PATCH 21/21] afs dynroot: " Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:41           ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-25 15:55         ` [PATCH 01/21] procfs: kill ->proc_dops Jan Kara
2025-02-25 23:30           ` NeilBrown
2025-02-25 23:56             ` Al Viro
2025-02-25 22:51         ` NeilBrown
2025-02-26  0:03           ` Al Viro
2025-02-26  8:25         ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-26  8:41       ` [RFC] dentry->d_flags locking Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 11:45 ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-11  7:50   ` Al Viro [this message]
2025-06-11  7:54     ` [PATCH v2 01/21] d_set_mounted(): we don't need to bump seqcount component of rename_lock Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 02/21] procfs: kill ->proc_dops Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 03/21] new helper: d_splice_alias_ops() Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 04/21] switch procfs from d_set_d_op() to d_splice_alias_ops() Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 05/21] fuse: no need for special dentry_operations for root dentry Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 06/21] new helper: set_default_d_op() Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 07/21] split d_flags calculation out of d_set_d_op() Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 08/21] correct the set of flags forbidden at d_set_d_op() time Al Viro
2025-06-11  9:49         ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 09/21] set_default_d_op(): calculate the matching value for ->d_flags Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 10/21] simple_lookup(): just set DCACHE_DONTCACHE Al Viro
2025-06-11  9:50         ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 11/21] make d_set_d_op() static Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 12/21] d_alloc_parallel(): set DCACHE_PAR_LOOKUP earlier Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 13/21] shmem: no dentry retention past the refcount reaching zero Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 14/21] devpts, sunrpc, hostfs: don't bother with ->d_op Al Viro
2025-06-11  9:50         ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 15/21] kill simple_dentry_operations Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 16/21] ramfs, hugetlbfs, mqueue: set DCACHE_DONTCACHE Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 17/21] 9p: don't bother with always_delete_dentry Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 18/21] efivarfs: use DCACHE_DONTCACHE instead of always_delete_dentry() Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 19/21] debugfs: use DCACHE_DONTCACHE Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 20/21] configfs: " Al Viro
2025-06-11  7:54       ` [PATCH v2 21/21] tracefs: set DCACHE_DONTCACHE Al Viro
2025-06-11  9:51         ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-11  9:47     ` [RFC][PATCHES v2] dentry->d_flags locking Christian Brauner
2025-02-24 14:07 ` [RFC] " Miklos Szeredi
2025-02-25 17:56   ` Al Viro

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