From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from verein.lst.de (verein.lst.de [213.95.11.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B884E2264C8 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2025 09:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=213.95.11.211 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1751968111; cv=none; b=l4+tNOShTnd97auNFbsXwj0z+1CqVyDfas+yoRNlSssPXYyngw6gn4Cy41iaTt8EljzOZDCA/zFCyFWn5rf5RHA6rRWd3Gi+W6y7N4VoqE1Ta6OpwlxifghLVykIL/6RjbHTVkoHbi4afCIYUA1W3RyECTuKPsTx2YXLTTA+xb8= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1751968111; c=relaxed/simple; bh=LAQpXsFb3/0GEm8v58bKjJqP4pRbMdJNvXJ0Svahw20=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=PTofLBnWTLuW5SsIA7ZNM+UC23Up5uEc1g0YzIIm/fqYht9MRqnbtatoZEKbhtRugVFz0IuvWEi8piF9GdEYs2SswRVAeOffHTrf64cvrbCOFMuNy8OLSLb6lwM2iuvrQkuA4G5pXMWLyM017KIhSN338yjIQFx3pj2YTGmBetQ= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lst.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lst.de; arc=none smtp.client-ip=213.95.11.211 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lst.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lst.de Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id 0349E68C4E; Tue, 8 Jul 2025 11:48:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2025 11:48:25 +0200 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Niklas Cassel Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Alan Adamson , John Garry , Keith Busch , "Martin K. Petersen" , Jens Axboe , linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: What should we do about the nvme atomics mess? Message-ID: <20250708094825.GC27634@lst.de> References: <20250707141834.GA30198@lst.de> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-block@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) On Tue, Jul 08, 2025 at 11:38:09AM +0200, Niklas Cassel wrote: > But NVMe should probably push to deprecate AUWPF, and introduce a new field > that is like AUWPF but which is specified in a fixed unit, e.g. bytes or > CAP.MPSMIN. (I'm thinking of e.g. Zone Append Size Limit (ZASL) which is also > a per controller limit, but the value is specified in units of CAP.MPSMIN, > just like the Maximum Data Transfer Size (MDTS).) There's not advantage in having yet another field vs mandating NAWUPF.