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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Li,Rongqing" <lirongqing@baidu.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"vschneid@redhat.com" <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	"mgorman@suse.de" <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"bsegall@google.com" <bsegall@google.com>,
	"dietmar.eggemann@arm.com" <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	"vincent.guittot@linaro.org" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"juri.lelli@redhat.com" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: divide error in x86 and cputime
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2025 12:00:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250708120016.4071595d@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250707230057.GC15787@redhat.com>

On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 01:00:57 +0200
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 07/07, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jul 2025 18:20:56 -0400
> > Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> >  
> > > I would say this should never happen and if it does, let the kernel crash.  
> >  
> > >> [78250815.703852] CPU: 127 PID: 83435 Comm: killall Kdump: loaded Tainted: P           OE K   5.10.0 #1  
> >
> > This happened on a 5.10 kernel with a proprietary module loaded, so
> > honestly, if it can't be reproduced on a newer kernel without any
> > proprietary modules loaded, I say we don't worry about it.  
> 
> Yes, agreed, see my reply to myself.

Except that just isn't relevant.
The problem is that the process running time (across all threads) can
easily exceed 2^64 nanoseconds.

With cpu having more and more 'cores' and software spinning to reduce
latency it will get more and more common.

Perhaps standardising on ns for timers (etc) wasn't such a bright idea.
Maybe 100ns would have been better.

But the process 'rtime' does need dividing down somewhat.
Thread 'rtime' is fine - 564 years isn't going to be out problem!

	David
  


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-08 11:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-07  8:14 divide error in x86 and cputime Li,Rongqing
2025-07-07 15:11 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-07 22:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-07-07 22:20   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-07 22:33     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-07 23:00       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-07-08 11:00         ` David Laight [this message]
2025-07-08  1:40       ` 答复: [????] " Li,Rongqing
2025-07-08  1:53         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08  1:58           ` 答复: [????] " Li,Rongqing
2025-07-08  2:05             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08  2:17               ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-07-08  9:58                 ` David Laight
2025-07-07 22:30   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-07-07 23:41     ` 答复: [????] " Li,Rongqing
2025-07-07 23:53       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08  0:10         ` 答复: [????] " Li,Rongqing
2025-07-08  0:30           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08  1:17             ` 答复: [????] " Li,Rongqing
2025-07-08  1:41               ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-08 10:35             ` [????] Re: [????] " David Laight
2025-07-08 11:12               ` 答复: [????] " Li,Rongqing
2025-07-08  0:23       ` 答复: " Li,Rongqing
2026-01-04 13:23       ` Xia Fukun
2026-01-04 14:23         ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-01-04 18:15           ` David Laight
2026-01-04 20:30             ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-01-04 22:03               ` David Laight

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