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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/12] docs: kdoc: Improve the output text accumulation
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2025 08:14:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250711081400.78731086@foz.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bjpry67n.fsf@trenco.lwn.net>

Em Thu, 10 Jul 2025 17:30:20 -0600
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> escreveu:

> Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org> writes:
> 
> > With that, I would just drop this patch, as the performance is
> > almost identical, and using "emit()" instead of "+=" IMO makes
> > the code less clear.  
> 
> I've dropped the patch - for now - but I really disagree with the latter
> part of that sentence.  It is far better, IMO, to encapsulate the
> construction of our output rather than spreading vast numbers of direct
> string concatenations throughout the code.  So this one will likely be
> back in a different form :)

The main concern was related to performance penalty - as based on
the latest test results, Pyhon currently handles very poorly list
concat (30% to 200% slower at the latest test results).

Yet, at least for me with my C-trained brain parsing, I find "=+" a
lot easier to understand than some_function().

Btw, IMHO Python is not particularly great with names for concat/accumulate
commands. For list, it is append(), for set it is add(). Yet, "+=" is almost
universal (from standard types, only sets don't accept it, using, 
instead, "|=", which kind of makes sense).

Adding a function naming emit() - at least for me - requires an extra brain 
processing time to remember that emit is actually a function that doesn't
produce any emission: it just stores data for a future output - that may 
even not happen if one calls the script with "--none".

Thanks,
Mauro

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-11  6:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-02 22:35 [PATCH 00/12] [PATCH 00/11] Thrash up the parser/output interface Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-02 22:35 ` [PATCH 01/12] docs: kdoc; Add a rudimentary class to represent output items Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-10  5:28   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-02 22:35 ` [PATCH 02/12] docs: kdoc: simplify the output-item passing Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-10  5:29   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-02 22:35 ` [PATCH 03/12] docs: kdoc: drop "sectionlist" Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-09 16:27   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-02 22:35 ` [PATCH 04/12] docs: kdoc: Centralize handling of the item section list Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-10  5:45   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-10 13:25     ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-02 22:35 ` [PATCH 05/12] docs: kdoc: remove the "struct_actual" machinery Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-10  6:11   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-02 22:35 ` [PATCH 06/12] docs: kdoc: use self.entry.parameterlist directly in check_sections() Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-10  6:12   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-02 22:35 ` [PATCH 07/12] docs: kdoc: Coalesce parameter-list handling Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-10  6:20   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-02 22:35 ` [PATCH 08/12] docs: kdoc: Regularize the use of the declaration name Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-10  6:22   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-02 22:35 ` [PATCH 09/12] docs: kdoc: straighten up dump_declaration() Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-10  6:25   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-10 13:27     ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-10 22:13       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-02 22:35 ` [PATCH 10/12] docs: kdoc: directly access the always-there KdocItem fields Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-10  6:27   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-02 22:35 ` [PATCH 11/12] docs: kdoc: clean up check_sections() Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-10  6:29   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-02 22:35 ` [PATCH 12/12] docs: kdoc: Improve the output text accumulation Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-10  6:41   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-10  7:13     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-10  8:19       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-10 10:10         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-10 10:31           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-10 10:59             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-10 23:30         ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-11  6:14           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2025-07-11 12:49             ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-11 16:28               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-07-11 16:39                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-03  2:07 ` [PATCH 00/12] [PATCH 00/11] Thrash up the parser/output interface Yanteng Si
2025-07-09 15:29 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-09 16:21   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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