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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Anuj Gupta <anuj20.g@samsung.com>,
	Kanchan Joshi <joshi.k@samsung.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] fs: add a FMODE_ flag to indicate IOCB_HAS_METADATA availability
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2025 15:34:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250819133447.GA16775@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250819-verrichten-bagger-d139351bb033@brauner>

On Tue, Aug 19, 2025 at 12:14:26PM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2025 at 11:22:19AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 19, 2025 at 11:14:41AM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > > It kind of feels like that f_iocb_flags should be changed so that
> > > subsystems like block can just raise some internal flags directly
> > > instead of grabbing a f_mode flag everytime they need to make some
> > > IOCB_* flag conditional on the file. That would mean changing the
> > > unconditional assigment to file->f_iocb_flags to a |= to not mask flags
> > > raised by the kernel itself.
> > 
> > This isn't about block.  I will be setting this for a file system
> > operation as well and use the same io_uring code for that.  That's
> > how I ran into the issue.
> 
> Yes, I get that. That's not what this is about. If IOCB_* flags keep
> getting added that then need an additional opt-out via an FMODE_* flag
> it's very annoying because you keep taking FMODE_* bits.

Agreed.

> The thing is
> that it should be possible to keep that information completely contained
> to f_iocb_flags without polluting f_mode.

I don't really understand how that would work.  The basic problem is that
we add optional features/flags to read and write, and we need a way to
check that they are supported and reject them without each time having
to update all instances.  For that VFS-level code needs some way to do
a per-instance check of available features.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-19 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-19  8:24 io_uring / dio metadata fixes Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-19  8:25 ` [PATCH 1/2] fs: add a FMODE_ flag to indicate IOCB_HAS_METADATA availability Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-19  9:14   ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-19  9:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-19 10:14       ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-19 13:34         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-08-20  9:40           ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-21  8:42             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-25 12:01               ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-25 13:35                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-19  8:25 ` [PATCH 2/2] block: don't silently ignore metadata for sync read/write Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-20  3:23   ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-08-20  9:13 ` io_uring / dio metadata fixes Christian Brauner

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