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From: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@fb.com, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	amir73il@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 17/54] fs: remove the inode from the LRU list on unlink/rmdir
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 12:08:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250827160843.GB2272053@perftesting> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250827-bratkartoffeln-weltschmerz-fc60227f43e7@brauner>

On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 02:32:49PM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 11:39:17AM -0400, Josef Bacik wrote:
> > We can end up with an inode on the LRU list or the cached list, then at
> > some point in the future go to unlink that inode and then still have an
> > elevated i_count reference for that inode because it is on one of these
> > lists.
> > 
> > The more common case is the cached list. We open a file, write to it,
> > truncate some of it which triggers the inode_add_lru code in the
> > pagecache, adding it to the cached LRU.  Then we unlink this inode, and
> > it exists until writeback or reclaim kicks in and removes the inode.
> > 
> > To handle this case, delete the inode from the LRU list when it is
> > unlinked, so we have the best case scenario for immediately freeing the
> > inode.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
> > ---
> 
> I'm not too fond of this particular change I think it's really misplaced
> and the correct place is indeed drop_nlink() and clear_nlink().
> 
> I'm pretty sure that the number of callers that hold i_lock around
> drop_nlink() and clear_nlink() is relatively small. So it might just be
> preferable to drop_nlink_locked() and clear_nlink_locked() and just
> switch the few places over to it. I think you have tooling to give you a
> preliminary glimpse what and how many callers do this...

Fair, I'll make the weird french guy figure it out.  Thanks,

Josef

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-27 16:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-26 15:39 [PATCH v2 00/54] fs: rework inode reference counting Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 01/54] fs: make the i_state flags an enum Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 02/54] fs: add an icount_read helper Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 22:18   ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-08-27 11:25   ` (subset) " Christian Brauner
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 03/54] fs: rework iput logic Josef Bacik
2025-08-27 12:58   ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-08-27 14:18     ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-08-27 14:54       ` Josef Bacik
2025-08-27 14:57       ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-27 16:24         ` [PATCH] fs: revamp iput() Mateusz Guzik
2025-08-30 15:54           ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-09-01  8:50             ` Jan Kara
2025-09-01 10:39               ` Christian Brauner
2025-09-01 10:41             ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 04/54] fs: add an i_obj_count refcount to the inode Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 05/54] fs: hold an i_obj_count reference in wait_sb_inodes Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 06/54] fs: hold an i_obj_count reference for the i_wb_list Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 07/54] fs: hold an i_obj_count reference for the i_io_list Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 08/54] fs: hold an i_obj_count reference in writeback_sb_inodes Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 09/54] fs: hold an i_obj_count reference while on the hashtable Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 10/54] fs: hold an i_obj_count reference while on the LRU list Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 11/54] fs: hold an i_obj_count reference while on the sb inode list Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 12/54] fs: stop accessing ->i_count directly in f2fs and gfs2 Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 13/54] fs: hold an i_obj_count when we have an i_count reference Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 14/54] fs: add an I_LRU flag to the inode Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 15/54] fs: maintain a list of pinned inodes Josef Bacik
2025-08-27 15:20   ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-27 16:07     ` Josef Bacik
2025-08-28  8:24       ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 16/54] fs: delete the inode from the LRU list on lookup Josef Bacik
2025-08-27 21:46   ` Dave Chinner
2025-08-28 11:42     ` Josef Bacik
2025-09-02  4:07       ` Dave Chinner
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 17/54] fs: remove the inode from the LRU list on unlink/rmdir Josef Bacik
2025-08-27 12:32   ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-27 16:08     ` Josef Bacik [this message]
2025-08-27 22:01     ` Dave Chinner
2025-08-28 11:46       ` Josef Bacik
2025-09-02  1:48         ` Dave Chinner
2025-08-28  9:00   ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-28  9:06   ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-28 10:43     ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 18/54] fs: change evict_inodes to use iput instead of evict directly Josef Bacik
2025-08-28 10:18   ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 19/54] fs: hold a full ref while the inode is on a LRU Josef Bacik
2025-08-28 10:51   ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 20/54] fs: disallow 0 reference count inodes Josef Bacik
2025-08-28 11:02   ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-28 11:44     ` Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 21/54] fs: make evict_inodes add to the dispose list under the i_lock Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 22/54] fs: convert i_count to refcount_t Josef Bacik
2025-08-28 12:00   ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 23/54] fs: use refcount_inc_not_zero in igrab Josef Bacik
2025-08-28 22:08   ` Eric Biggers
2025-08-29 13:42     ` Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 24/54] fs: use inode_tryget in find_inode* Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 25/54] fs: update find_inode_*rcu to check the i_count count Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 26/54] fs: use igrab in insert_inode_locked Josef Bacik
2025-08-28 12:15   ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 27/54] fs: remove I_WILL_FREE|I_FREEING check from __inode_add_lru Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 28/54] fs: remove I_WILL_FREE|I_FREEING check in inode_pin_lru_isolating Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 29/54] fs: use inode_tryget in evict_inodes Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 30/54] fs: change evict_dentries_for_decrypted_inodes to use refcount Josef Bacik
2025-08-28 12:25   ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-28 22:26     ` Eric Biggers
2025-08-29  7:38       ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 31/54] block: use igrab in sync_bdevs Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 32/54] bcachefs: use the refcount instead of I_WILL_FREE|I_FREEING Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 33/54] btrfs: don't check I_WILL_FREE|I_FREEING Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 34/54] fs: use igrab in drop_pagecache_sb Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 35/54] fs: stop checking I_FREEING in d_find_alias_rcu Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 36/54] ext4: stop checking I_WILL_FREE|IFREEING in ext4_check_map_extents_env Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 37/54] fs: remove I_WILL_FREE|I_FREEING from fs-writeback.c Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 38/54] gfs2: remove I_WILL_FREE|I_FREEING usage Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 39/54] fs: remove I_WILL_FREE|I_FREEING check from dquot.c Josef Bacik
2025-08-28 12:35   ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 40/54] notify: remove I_WILL_FREE|I_FREEING checks in fsnotify_unmount_inodes Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 41/54] xfs: remove I_FREEING check Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 42/54] landlock: remove I_FREEING|I_WILL_FREE check Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 43/54] fs: change inode_is_dirtytime_only to use refcount Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 22:06   ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-08-28 12:38     ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 44/54] btrfs: remove references to I_FREEING Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 45/54] ext4: remove reference to I_FREEING in inode.c Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 46/54] ext4: remove reference to I_FREEING in orphan.c Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 47/54] pnfs: use i_count refcount to determine if the inode is going away Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 48/54] fs: remove some spurious I_FREEING references in inode.c Josef Bacik
2025-08-28 12:40   ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 49/54] xfs: remove reference to I_FREEING|I_WILL_FREE Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 50/54] ocfs2: do not set I_WILL_FREE Josef Bacik
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 51/54] fs: remove I_FREEING|I_WILL_FREE Josef Bacik
2025-08-28 12:42   ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 52/54] fs: remove I_REFERENCED Josef Bacik
2025-08-28 12:47   ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 53/54] fs: remove I_LRU_ISOLATING flag Josef Bacik
2025-08-28  0:26   ` Dave Chinner
2025-08-28 10:35     ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-26 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 54/54] fs: add documentation explaining the reference count rules for inodes Josef Bacik
2025-08-27  8:03 ` [syzbot ci] Re: fs: rework inode reference counting syzbot ci
2025-08-27 11:14 ` (subset) [PATCH v2 00/54] " Christian Brauner
2025-08-28 12:51 ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-28 21:22   ` Josef Bacik
2025-09-02 10:06 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-09-02 21:16   ` Josef Bacik
2025-09-09 13:48     ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-09-09 16:32       ` Mateusz Guzik

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