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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>
Cc: Badal Nilawar <badal.nilawar@intel.com>,
	intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	anshuman.gupta@intel.com, alexander.usyskin@intel.com,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, daniele.ceraolospurio@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 9/9] {fwctl,drm}/xe/pcode: Introduce xe_pcode_fwctl
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2025 09:48:00 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250828124800.GC7333@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aKjF_ZvP5-1W1tei@intel.com>

On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 03:33:17PM -0400, Rodrigo Vivi wrote:
> On Wed, May 07, 2025 at 07:04:44PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Wed, May 07, 2025 at 03:49:15PM -0400, Rodrigo Vivi wrote:
> > 
> > > One last thing since I have your attention here. Was any time in the previous
> > > fwctl discussions talked about the possibility of some extra usages for like
> > > FW flashing or in-field-repair/tests where big data needs to filled bypassing
> > > lockdown mode?
> > 
> > For FW flash I do suggest you try to use devlink's firmware flashing
> > interface. I think it would be really great if that could become a
> > cross-subsystem standard in Linux.
> 
> I took a look there and I do believe devlink works very well for fw flashing and
> it is also already prepared for basically any pci device without any change.
> Thanks for the suggestion.

Jiri also has generic plugin for fwupd:

https://github.com/fwupd/fwupd/pull/9053

So if you do the kernel side you get a whole ecosystem now..

> But now I have to ask you about 2 other use cases that are not under the
> umbrella of: configuration and provisioning, but perhaps at least partially
> under the umbrella of debug:
> 
> - In-field-test-and-repair
> - Error injection
> 
> Can fwctl be used for these use cases, supposing that it FW mailboxes
> commands and responses directly with no modification to the fwctl
> infra itself?

These sound like what fwctl was intended for, yes.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-28 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-29 16:09 [RFC 0/9] Introducing firmware late binding Badal Nilawar
2025-04-29 16:09 ` [RFC 1/9] mei: bus: add mei_cldev_mtu interface Badal Nilawar
2025-04-29 16:09 ` [RFC 2/9] mei: late_bind: add late binding component driver Badal Nilawar
2025-05-07 22:42   ` Daniele Ceraolo Spurio
2025-05-08  5:41     ` Usyskin, Alexander
2025-06-03 12:01       ` Nilawar, Badal
2025-04-29 16:09 ` [RFC 3/9] drm/xe/late_bind_fw: Introducing late_bind_fw Badal Nilawar
2025-05-02 13:02   ` kernel test robot
2025-05-07 21:38   ` Daniele Ceraolo Spurio
2025-06-03 13:52     ` Nilawar, Badal
2025-04-29 16:09 ` [RFC 4/9] drm/xe/xe_late_bind_fw: Initialize late binding firmware Badal Nilawar
2025-05-07 23:11   ` Daniele Ceraolo Spurio
2025-06-03 13:57     ` Nilawar, Badal
2025-04-29 16:09 ` [RFC 5/9] drm/xe/xe_late_bind_fw: Load " Badal Nilawar
2025-05-07 23:44   ` Daniele Ceraolo Spurio
2025-06-04  5:36     ` Nilawar, Badal
2025-04-29 16:09 ` [RFC 6/9] drm/xe/xe_late_bind_fw: Reload late binding fw in rpm resume Badal Nilawar
2025-04-29 16:09 ` [RFC 7/9] drm/xe/xe_late_bind_fw: Reload late binding fw in S2Idle/S3 resume Badal Nilawar
2025-04-29 16:09 ` [RFC 8/9] drm/xe/xe_late_bind_fw: Introduce debug fs node to disable late binding Badal Nilawar
2025-04-29 16:09 ` [RFC 9/9] {fwctl,drm}/xe/pcode: Introduce xe_pcode_fwctl Badal Nilawar
2025-05-01 15:44   ` Rodrigo Vivi
2025-05-06 18:13   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-07 19:49     ` Rodrigo Vivi
2025-05-07 22:04       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-22 19:33         ` Rodrigo Vivi
2025-08-28 12:48           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-06-06 13:47       ` Nilawar, Badal
2025-06-06 13:45     ` Nilawar, Badal
2025-06-30 22:01     ` Rodrigo Vivi
2025-06-30 22:45       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-29 16:13 ` ✓ CI.Patch_applied: success for Introducing firmware late binding (rev2) Patchwork
2025-04-29 16:14 ` ✗ CI.checkpatch: warning " Patchwork
2025-04-29 16:15 ` ✓ CI.KUnit: success " Patchwork
2025-04-29 16:23 ` ✓ CI.Build: " Patchwork
2025-04-29 16:26 ` ✗ CI.Hooks: failure " Patchwork
2025-04-29 16:27 ` ✗ CI.checksparse: warning " Patchwork
2025-04-29 19:02 ` ✗ Xe.CI.Full: failure " Patchwork
2025-04-30 11:47 ` [RFC 0/9] Introducing firmware late binding Jani Nikula
2025-05-06  7:53 ` ✗ Xe.CI.BAT: failure for Introducing firmware late binding (rev2) Patchwork
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-04-29  7:37 [RFC 0/9] Introducing firmware late binding Badal Nilawar
2025-04-29  7:38 ` [RFC 9/9] {fwctl,drm}/xe/pcode: Introduce xe_pcode_fwctl Badal Nilawar

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