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From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: James Calligeros <jcalligeros99@gmail.com>
Cc: Sven Peter <sven@kernel.org>, Janne Grunau <j@jannau.net>,
	Alyssa Rosenzweig <alyssa@rosenzweig.io>,
	Neal Gompa <neal@gompa.dev>, Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.com>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	asahi@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org, linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/11] dt-bindings: hwmon: Add Apple System Management Controller hwmon schema
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2025 11:40:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250829164057.GA976361-robh@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250827-macsmc-subdevs-v2-2-ce5e99d54c28@gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 09:22:36PM +1000, James Calligeros wrote:
> Apple Silicon devices integrate a vast array of sensors, monitoring
> current, power, temperature, and voltage across almost every part of
> the system. The sensors themselves are all connected to the System
> Management Controller (SMC). The SMC firmware exposes the data
> reported by these sensors via its standard FourCC-based key-value
> API. The SMC is also responsible for monitoring and controlling any
> fans connected to the system, exposing them in the same way.
> 
> For reasons known only to Apple, each device exposes its sensors with
> an almost totally unique set of keys. This is true even for devices
> which share an SoC. An M1 Mac mini, for example, will report its core
> temperatures on different keys to an M1 MacBook Pro. Worse still, the
> SMC does not provide a way to enumerate the available keys at runtime,
> nor do the keys follow any sort of reasonable or consistent naming
> rules that could be used to deduce their purpose. We must therefore
> know which keys are present on any given device, and which function
> they serve, ahead of time.
> 
> Add a schema so that we can describe the available sensors for a given
> Apple Silicon device in the Devicetree.
> 
> Signed-off-by: James Calligeros <jcalligeros99@gmail.com>
> ---
>  .../bindings/hwmon/apple,smc-hwmon.yaml  | 132 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  .../bindings/mfd/apple,smc.yaml          |  36 +++++++
>  MAINTAINERS                              |   1 +
>  3 files changed, 169 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/hwmon/apple,smc-hwmon.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/hwmon/apple,smc-hwmon.yaml
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..08cc4f55f3a41ca8b3b428088f96240266fa42e8
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/hwmon/apple,smc-hwmon.yaml
> @@ -0,0 +1,132 @@
> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
> +%YAML 1.2
> +---
> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/hwmon/apple,smc-hwmon.yaml#
> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> +
> +title: Apple SMC Hardware Monitoring
> +
> +description:
> +  Apple's System Management Controller (SMC) exposes a vast array of
> +  hardware monitoring sensors, including temperature probes, current and
> +  voltage sense, power meters, and fan speeds. It also provides endpoints
> +  to manually control the speed of each fan individually. Each Apple
> +  Silicon device exposes a different set of endpoints via SMC keys. This
> +  is true even when two machines share an SoC. The CPU core temperature
> +  sensor keys on an M1 Mac mini are different to those on an M1 MacBook
> +  Pro, for example.
> +
> +maintainers:
> +  - James Calligeros <jcalligeros99@gmail.com>
> +
> +definitions:

$defs

definitions was convention. $defs is in json-schema spec now.

> +  apple,key-id:
> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> +    pattern: "^[A-Za-z0-9]{4}$"
> +    description: The SMC FourCC key of the desired sensor.
> +      Must match the node's suffix.
> +
> +  label:
> +    description: Human-readable name for the sensor
> +
> +properties:
> +  compatible:
> +    const: apple,smc-hwmon
> +
> +patternProperties:
> +  "^current-[A-Za-z0-9]{4}$":
> +    type: object
> +    additionalProperties: false
> +
> +    properties:
> +      apple,key-id:
> +        $ref: "#/definitions/apple,key-id"
> +
> +      label:
> +        $ref: "#/definitions/label"
> +
> +    required:
> +      - apple,key-id
> +      - label

This should be something like this:

"^current-[A-Za-z0-9]{4}$":
  $ref: "#/$defs/sensor"
  unevaluatedProperties: false

With the $defs/sensor being:

$defs:
  sensor:
    type: object
    
    properties:
      apple,key-id:
        $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
        pattern: "^[A-Za-z0-9]{4}$"
        description: 
          The SMC FourCC key of the desired sensor. Must match the 
          node's suffix.

      label:
        description: Human-readable name for the sensor

    required:
      - apple,key-id
      - label

Though in general, 'label' should never be required being just for human 
convenience.

> +
> +  "^fan-[A-Za-z0-9]{4}$":
> +    type: object
> +    additionalProperties: false

And this one the same as above, but with the additional fan properties 
listed here.

> +
> +    properties:
> +      apple,key-id:
> +        $ref: "#/definitions/apple,key-id"
> +
> +      apple,fan-minimum:
> +        $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> +        pattern: "^[A-Za-z0-9]{4}$"
> +        description: SMC key containing the fan's minimum speed
> +
> +      apple,fan-maximum:
> +        $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> +        pattern: "^[A-Za-z0-9]{4}$"
> +        description: SMC key containing the fan's maximum speed
> +
> +      apple,fan-target:
> +        $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> +        pattern: "^[A-Za-z0-9]{4}$"
> +        description: Writeable endpoint for setting desired fan speed
> +
> +      apple,fan-mode:
> +        $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> +        pattern: "^[A-Za-z0-9]{4}$"
> +        description: Writeable key to enable/disable manual fan control
> +
> +      label:
> +        $ref: "#/definitions/label"
> +
> +    required:
> +      - apple,key-id
> +      - label
> +
> +  "^power-[A-Za-z0-9]{4}$":
> +    type: object
> +    additionalProperties: false
> +
> +    properties:
> +      apple,key-id:
> +        $ref: "#/definitions/apple,key-id"
> +
> +      label:
> +        $ref: "#/definitions/label"
> +
> +    required:
> +      - apple,key-id
> +      - label
> +
> +  "^temperature-[A-Za-z0-9]{4}$":
> +    type: object
> +    additionalProperties: false
> +
> +    properties:
> +      apple,key-id:
> +        $ref: "#/definitions/apple,key-id"
> +
> +      label:
> +        $ref: "#/definitions/label"
> +
> +    required:
> +      - apple,key-id
> +      - label
> +
> +  "^voltage-[A-Za-z0-9]{4}$":
> +    type: object
> +    additionalProperties: false
> +
> +    properties:
> +      apple,key-id:
> +        $ref: "#/definitions/apple,key-id"
> +
> +      label:
> +        $ref: "#/definitions/label"
> +
> +    required:
> +      - apple,key-id
> +      - label
> +
> +additionalProperties: false

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-29 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-27 11:22 [PATCH v2 00/11] mfd: macsmc: add rtc, hwmon and hid subdevices James Calligeros
2025-08-27 11:22 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] dt-bindings: rtc: Add Apple SMC RTC James Calligeros
2025-08-27 11:22 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] dt-bindings: hwmon: Add Apple System Management Controller hwmon schema James Calligeros
2025-08-29 16:40   ` Rob Herring [this message]
2025-09-25 20:49     ` Janne Grunau
2025-09-25 21:43       ` Rob Herring
2025-09-28  0:36         ` James Calligeros
2025-09-28  2:09           ` Guenter Roeck
2025-08-27 11:22 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] rtc: Add new rtc-macsmc driver for Apple Silicon Macs James Calligeros
2025-08-27 11:22 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] mfd: macsmc: Wire up Apple SMC RTC subdevice James Calligeros
2025-08-27 11:22 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] hwmon: Add Apple Silicon SMC hwmon driver James Calligeros
2025-08-28 22:19   ` Guenter Roeck
2025-09-25 21:33   ` Janne Grunau
2025-08-27 11:22 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] mfd: macsmc: Wire up Apple SMC hwmon subdevice James Calligeros
2025-08-27 11:22 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] input: macsmc-hid: New driver to handle the Apple Mac SMC buttons/lid James Calligeros
2025-08-29 11:11   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2025-10-21 21:35     ` Janne Grunau
2025-09-25 21:49   ` Janne Grunau
2025-08-27 11:22 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] mfd: macsmc: Wire up Apple SMC HID subdevice James Calligeros
2025-09-25 21:55   ` Janne Grunau
2025-08-27 11:22 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] arm64: dts: apple: t8103,t600x,t8112: Add SMC RTC node James Calligeros
2025-08-27 11:22 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] arm64: dts: apple: Add common hwmon sensors and fans James Calligeros
2025-09-25 22:02   ` Janne Grunau
2025-08-27 11:22 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] arm64: dts: apple: t8103, t600x, t8112: Add common hwmon nodes to devices James Calligeros
2025-08-27 13:47 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] mfd: macsmc: add rtc, hwmon and hid subdevices Guenter Roeck
2025-08-27 22:06   ` James Calligeros
2025-08-28  2:50     ` Neal Gompa
2025-08-28 22:12 ` Alexandre Belloni
2025-09-25 22:13 ` Janne Grunau

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