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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: Shay Drory <shayd@nvidia.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, pabeni@redhat.com,
	horms@kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ozsh@nvidia.com, mbloch@nvidia.com,
	tariqt@nvidia.com, saeedm@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next] net: devlink: add port function attr for vport ↔ eswitch metadata forwarding
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2025 19:09:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250829190924.5e730888@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ilh6xgancwvjyeoqmekaemqodbwtr6qfl7npyey5tnw5jb5qt2@oqce6b5jajl2>

On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 11:03:41 +0200 Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 08:52:29AM +0200, shayd@nvidia.com wrote:
> >In some product architectures, the eswitch manager and the exception
> >handler run as separate user space processes. The eswitch manager uses
> >the physical uplink device, while the slow path handler uses a virtual
> >device.
> >
> >In this architectures, the eswitch manager application program the HW to
> >send the exception packets to specific vport, and on top this vport
> >virtual device, the exception application is running and handling these
> >packets.
> >
> >Currently, when packets are forwarded between the eswitch and a vport,
> >no per-packet metadata is preserved. As a result, the slow path handler
> >cannot implement features that require visibility into the packet's
> >hardware context.  
> 
> A vendor-specific slow path. Basically you provide a possibility for
> user to pass a binary blob to hw along with every TX'ed packet and
> vice versa. That looks quite odd tbh. I mean, isn't this horribly
> breaking the socket abstraction? Also, isn't this horribly breaking the
> forwarding offloading model when HW should just mimic the behaviour of
> the kernel?

I suppose will be told at some point that it's for debug.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-30  2:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-28  6:52 [RFC net-next] net: devlink: add port function attr for vport ↔ eswitch metadata forwarding Shay Drory
2025-08-28  9:03 ` Jiri Pirko
2025-08-30  2:09   ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2025-09-01  6:30   ` Shay Drori

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