From: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
To: Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>
Cc: Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
Nicolas Schier <nicolas.schier@linux.dev>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>,
Stephen Brennan <stephen.s.brennan@oracle.com>,
Marco Bonelli <marco@mebeim.net>, Petr Vorel <pvorel@suse.cz>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] kconfig: Add transitional symbol attribute for migration support
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 11:31:27 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <202509011125.5879901C@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d25b2c63-32e2-4a41-b982-da5131cffd2f@oracle.com>
On Mon, Sep 01, 2025 at 08:20:18PM +0200, Vegard Nossum wrote:
>
> On 01/09/2025 18:56, Kees Cook wrote:
> > > > @@ -459,13 +462,15 @@ void sym_calc_value(struct symbol *sym)
> > > > sym_calc_choice(choice_menu);
> > > > newval.tri = sym->curr.tri;
> > > > } else {
> > > > - if (sym->visible != no) {
> > > > + if (sym->usable) {
> > > > /* if the symbol is visible use the user value
> > > > * if available, otherwise try the default value
> > > > */
> > > > if (sym_has_value(sym)) {
> > > > + tristate value = sym->transitional ?
> > > > + sym->def[S_DEF_USER].tri : sym->visible;
> > > > newval.tri = EXPR_AND(sym->def[S_DEF_USER].tri,
> > > > - sym->visible);
> > > > + value);
> > > This looks a bit odd to me. Just thinking out loud: your new logic is
> > > there to be able to use a value even though it's not visible. In the
> > > case where it's transitional you use the .config value instead of the
> > > condition that makes it visible.
> > >
> > > Could you simply change sym_calc_visibility() instead to always return
> > > 'yes' when the symbol is transitional? Wouldn't that simplify everything
> > > in sym_calc_value()?
> > It's a tristate, so "m" is also possible besides "y". (sym->visible is
> > also a tristate. 🙂
>
> That would be fine, right?
>
> We'd pass the if (sym->visible != no) check... we'd do the
>
> newval.tri = EXPR_AND(sym->def[S_DEF_USER].tri, sym->visible);
>
> EXPR_AND() is basically min() (with n=0, m=1, y=2), so effectively it
> would end up doing
>
> newval.tri = min(sym->def[S_DEF_USER].tri, 2);
>
> which is the same as
>
> newval.tri = sym->def[S_DEF_USER].tri;
>
> That's what your code is currently doing too, but in a much more
> roundabout way.
Right, it was this:
newval.tri = EXPR_AND(sym->def[S_DEF_USER].tri, sym->visible);
But I made it effectively:
if (sym->transitional)
newval.tri = EXPR_AND(sym->def[S_DEF_USER].tri, sym->def[S_DEF_USER].tri);
else
newval.tri = EXPR_AND(sym->def[S_DEF_USER].tri, sym->visible);
That first "if" is kind of pointless. I just sent the v3 before I saw
this email. :P
I was trying to avoid yet more indentation, but I could change it to:
if (sym->transitional)
newval.tri = sym->def[S_DEF_USER].tri;
else
newval.tri = EXPR_AND(sym->def[S_DEF_USER].tri,
sym->visible);
?
--
Kees Cook
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-01 18:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-30 2:01 [PATCH v2] kconfig: Add transitional symbol attribute for migration support Kees Cook
2025-09-01 8:34 ` Vegard Nossum
2025-09-01 16:56 ` Kees Cook
2025-09-01 18:20 ` Vegard Nossum
2025-09-01 18:31 ` Kees Cook [this message]
2025-09-01 18:44 ` Vegard Nossum
2025-09-04 2:51 ` Kees Cook
2025-09-04 17:03 ` Vegard Nossum
2025-09-04 17:10 ` Vegard Nossum
2025-09-05 9:41 ` Vegard Nossum
2025-09-05 16:24 ` Kees Cook
2025-09-05 16:23 ` Kees Cook
2025-09-23 21:36 ` Kees Cook
2025-09-01 9:09 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-01 16:48 ` Kees Cook
2025-09-01 16:39 ` Randy Dunlap
2025-09-01 16:45 ` Kees Cook
2025-09-01 16:54 ` Randy Dunlap
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