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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Vegard Nossum	 <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>,
	ksummit@lists.linux.dev,
	Linux Documentation	 <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
	Bagas Sanjaya	 <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [TECH TOPIC] Kernel documentation - update and future directions
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2025 15:39:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250903153905.7d93c693@foz.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <431ce4a26d70de6b6d63778e62b732dc035633f9.camel@sipsolutions.net>

Em Wed, 03 Sep 2025 12:45:25 +0200
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net> escreveu:

> On Wed, 2025-09-03 at 12:42 +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > > For example, use case we have: using nix-shell to lock down the software
> > > used to build, for reproducible builds and similar reasons. Without --
> > > pure, PATH may still contain (last!) software from the system itself,
> > > but it should basically never be used.  
> > 
> > if the PATH is mangled, you'll have a lot more problems than just
> > building docs as it will pick wrong exec files anyway.  
> 
> Err, no? To search a binary, directories in $PATH are meant to be
> searched in order of appearance. It's well-defined which one you pick
> for which, and this setup takes advantage of that (with a rather long
> $PATH) to control the binaries used for the build.

Yes. So? the logic does that.

> > In the particular case of docs, if you have, for instance, two different
> > python versions, one with sphinx and another one without it, it may pick
> > the wrong one, causing the build to fail. There's nothing the build system
> > can do to solve it. The proper fix would be to wrap the calling logic
> > to save the env before running under nix-shell, restoring env afterwards.  
> 
> I don't follow. If this setup breaks the build then that's good, I'll
> fix the env. If the build does magic inside and sort of ignores $PATH,
> that's bad.

The build logic does follow PATH. If python --version < 3.7, it will
seek, within PATH, for python > 3.6.

Thanks,
Mauro

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-03 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-22 22:55 [TECH TOPIC] Kernel documentation - update and future directions Jonathan Corbet
2025-08-25 10:35 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-08-28 23:01 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-30 13:37   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-08-30 16:00     ` Vegard Nossum
2025-08-30 22:23       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-30 23:08         ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-08-31 14:03           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-08-31 20:16             ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-01  6:17               ` Randy Dunlap
2025-09-01 19:27                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-01 10:09             ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-01 16:51               ` Randy Dunlap
2025-09-01 17:52                 ` Mark Brown
2025-09-01 18:15                   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-09-01 18:20                     ` Mark Brown
2025-09-01 18:25                   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-01 18:40                     ` Mark Brown
2025-09-01 19:51                       ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-01 22:52                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-01 18:46                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-01 18:52                     ` Mark Brown
2025-09-01 22:56                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-02 11:15                         ` Mark Brown
2025-09-02 11:59                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-02 12:14                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-02 13:00                               ` Mark Brown
2025-09-02 14:42                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-02 15:15                                   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-02 17:19                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-02 18:52                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-03  7:47                                         ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-03 10:04                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-03 10:25                                             ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-02 18:58                                       ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-02 22:35                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-03  6:29                                         ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-03 10:42                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-03 10:45                                             ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-03 10:54                                               ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-03 14:57                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-03 15:07                                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-03 15:17                                                     ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-03 15:22                                                     ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-09-03 15:11                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-03 15:25                                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-03 15:37                                                       ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-03 15:52                                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-03 13:39                                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2025-09-03 13:51                                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-01 19:53                     ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-01 23:15                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-01 18:37                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-01 19:05                   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-09-01 19:17                     ` Mark Brown
2025-09-02 10:42                 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-02 11:55                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-02 12:07                     ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-02 15:07                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-01 18:26               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-09-02 10:55                 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-02 12:04                   ` Andrew Lunn

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