From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Mario Limonciello <superm1@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 RESEND 00/11] Improvements to S5 power consumption
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2025 16:41:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2025090839-desktop-ladder-c2f7@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <af78dfb4-de61-4b8c-a131-cf39a4c3c4b0@kernel.org>
On Mon, Sep 08, 2025 at 07:39:07AM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>
>
> On 9/8/25 4:19 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 06, 2025 at 09:36:31AM -0500, Mario Limonciello (AMD) wrote:
> > > A variety of issues both in function and in power consumption have been
> > > raised as a result of devices not being put into a low power state when
> > > the system is powered off.
> > >
> > > There have been some localized changes[1] to PCI core to help these issues,
> > > but they have had various downsides.
> > >
> > > This series instead tries to use the S4 flow when the system is being
> > > powered off. This lines up the behavior with what other operating systems
> > > do as well. If for some reason that fails or is not supported, run their
> > > shutdown() callbacks.
> > >
> > > Cc: AceLan Kao <acelan.kao@canonical.com>
> > > Cc: Kai-Heng Feng <kaihengf@nvidia.com>
> > > Cc: Mark Pearson <mpearson-lenovo@squebb.ca>
> > > Cc: Merthan Karakaş <m3rthn.k@gmail.com>
> > > Cc: Eric Naim <dnaim@cachyos.org>
> > > ---
> > > v6 RESEND:
> > > * Resent because Greg said he was ignoring it and would like the whole
> > > series to be able to review.
> >
> > Messy, but wow, I'll trust you all that this actually works properly.
>
> Yes; I double checked from a UART log all devices (now) went to correct
> state and from power measurement hardware the respective drop in power.
>
> I will note I have a sampling bias of hardware being x86 AMD hardware.
> Some of the testers of the series also tested Intel hardware which had
> similar power consumption problem, and I know there were improvements there
> too.
>
> We probably will have to wait for linux-next for non-x86 hardware coverage.
> > No objections from me, but I don't want my ack on this as I don't know
> > how to maintain it :)
> >
>
> I mean - if all goes well even a failed S4 flow should fall back to old path
> shutdown. I *did contrive some failures* in an earlier version of the
> series and confirmed in the UART log it emitted the printk that it was
> falling back to shutdown.
>
> I had two ideas that maybe could help for regression risk though:
> 1) I could add a shutdown= kernel parameter. I'm not sure what words to use
> for the two paths but the idea would be if someone had a shutdown failure
> they could isolate if it's due to this by adding the parameter.
>
> 2) I could make a Documentation/ file explaining some examples how to get
> the shutdown log saved to pstore in case they don't have a UART available.
This second one is probably the best. A new command line is not going
to probably be used and just be a pain to maintain over time.
thanks,
greg k-h
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Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-06 14:36 [PATCH v6 RESEND 00/11] Improvements to S5 power consumption Mario Limonciello (AMD)
2025-09-06 14:36 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 01/11] PM: Introduce new PMSG_POWEROFF event Mario Limonciello (AMD)
2025-09-06 14:36 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 02/11] scsi: Add PM_EVENT_POWEROFF into suspend callbacks Mario Limonciello (AMD)
2025-09-06 14:36 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 03/11] usb: sl811-hcd: " Mario Limonciello (AMD)
2025-09-06 14:36 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 04/11] USB: Pass PMSG_POWEROFF event to suspend_common() for poweroff with S4 flow Mario Limonciello (AMD)
2025-09-06 14:36 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 05/11] PCI: PM: Disable device wakeups when halting system through " Mario Limonciello (AMD)
2025-09-06 14:36 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 06/11] PCI: PM: Split out code from pci_pm_suspend_noirq() into helper Mario Limonciello (AMD)
2025-09-06 14:36 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 07/11] PCI: PM: Run bridge power up actions as part of restore phase Mario Limonciello (AMD)
2025-09-06 14:36 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 08/11] PCI: PM: Use pci_power_manageable() in pci_pm_poweroff_noirq() Mario Limonciello (AMD)
2025-09-06 14:36 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 09/11] PCI: Put PCIe bridges with downstream devices into D3 at hibernate Mario Limonciello (AMD)
2025-09-06 14:36 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 10/11] drm/amd: Avoid evicting resources at S5 Mario Limonciello (AMD)
2025-09-06 14:36 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 11/11] PM: Use hibernate flows for system power off Mario Limonciello (AMD)
2025-09-08 9:19 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 00/11] Improvements to S5 power consumption Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-08 12:39 ` Mario Limonciello
2025-09-08 14:41 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
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