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From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
Cc: Marcelo Schmitt <marcelo.schmitt@analog.com>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-spi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, michael.hennerich@analog.com,
	nuno.sa@analog.com, eblanc@baylibre.com, dlechner@baylibre.com,
	andy@kernel.org, krzk+dt@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org,
	corbet@lwn.net, marcelo.schmitt1@gmail.com,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 7/8] dt-bindings: iio: adc: adi,ad4030: Add ADAQ4216 and ADAQ4224
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2025 09:31:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250929143132.GA4099970-robh@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250928111955.175680cb@jic23-huawei>

On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 11:19:55AM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 17:40:47 -0300
> Marcelo Schmitt <marcelo.schmitt@analog.com> wrote:
> 
> > ADAQ4216 and ADAQ4224 are similar to AD4030 except that ADAQ devices have a
> > PGA (programmable gain amplifier) that scales the input signal prior to it
> > reaching the ADC inputs. The PGA is controlled through a couple of pins (A0
> > and A1) that set one of four possible signal gain configurations.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Marcelo Schmitt <marcelo.schmitt@analog.com>
> > ---
> > Change log v2 -> v3
> > - PGA gain now described in decibels.
> > 
> > The PGA gain is not going to fit well as a channel property because it may
> > affect more than one channel as in AD7191.
> > https://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/AD7191.pdf
> > 
> > I consulted a very trustworthy source [1, 2] and learned that describing signal
> > gains in decibels is a common practice. I now think it would be ideal to describe
> > these PGA and PGA-like gains with properties in decibel units and this patch
> > is an attempt of doing so. The only problem with this approach is that we end up
> > with negative values when the gain is lower than 1 (the signal is attenuated)
> > and device tree specification doesn't support signed integer types. As the
> > docs being proposed fail dt_binding_check, I guess I have to nack the patch myself.
> > Any chance of dt specification eventually support signed integers?
> > Any suggestions appreciated.
> > 
> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decibel
> > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gain_(electronics)
> 
> I still wonder if the better way to describe this is to ignore that it
> has anything to do with PGA as such and instead describe the pin strapping.
> 
> DT folk, is there an existing way to do that? My grep skills are failing to
> spot one.
> 
> We've papered over this for a long time in various IIO drivers by controlling
> directly what the pin strap controls with weird and wonderful device specific
> bindings. I wonder if we can't have a gpio driver + binding that rejects all
> config and just lets us check the current state of an output pin.  Kind of a
> fixed mode regulator equivalent for gpios.

If these are connected to GPIOs, isn't it possible that someone will 
want to change their value?

Other than some generic 'pinstrap-gpios' property, I don't see what we'd 
do here? I don't feel like pin strapping GPIOs is something that we see 
all that often.

Rob

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-29 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-26 20:37 [PATCH v3 0/8] Add SPI offload support to AD4030 Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-26 20:38 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] dt-bindings: iio: adc: adi,ad4030: Reference spi-peripheral-props Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-26 20:38 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] Docs: iio: ad4030: Add double PWM SPI offload doc Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-26 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] dt-bindings: iio: adc: adi,ad4030: Add PWM Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-26 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] iio: adc: ad4030: Reduce register access transfer speed Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-28  9:53   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-28 14:17     ` Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-26 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] iio: adc: ad4030: Use BIT macro to improve code readability Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-26 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] iio: adc: ad4030: Add SPI offload support Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-27 12:59   ` kernel test robot
2025-09-28 10:02     ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-28 10:08   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-26 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] dt-bindings: iio: adc: adi,ad4030: Add ADAQ4216 and ADAQ4224 Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-26 22:10   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-09-28 10:19   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-29 14:31     ` Rob Herring [this message]
2025-09-29 16:16       ` David Lechner
2025-09-30 14:47         ` Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-30 17:02           ` Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-30 18:26         ` Rob Herring
2025-10-01 11:55           ` David Lechner
2025-09-26 20:41 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] iio: adc: ad4030: Add support for " Marcelo Schmitt
2025-09-28 10:26   ` Jonathan Cameron

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