From: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, ziy@nvidia.com,
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Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] mm/migrate: make sure folio_unlock() before folio_wait_writeback()
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2025 10:02:30 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251003010230.GC75385@system.software.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9a586b5b-c47f-45eb-83c8-1e86431fc83d@redhat.com>
On Thu, Oct 02, 2025 at 01:38:59PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > To simplify the scenario:
> >
>
> Just curious, where is the __folio_start_writeback() to complete the
> picture?
>
> > context X (wq worker) context Y (process context)
> >
> > migrate_pages_batch()
> > ext4_end_io_end() ...
> > ... migrate_folio_unmap()
> > ext4_get_inode_loc() ...
> > ... folio_lock() // hold the folio lock
> > bdev_getblk() ...
> > ... folio_wait_writeback() // wait forever
> > __find_get_block_slow()
> > ... ...
> > folio_lock() // wait forever
> > folio_unlock() migrate_folio_undo_src()
> > ...
> > ... folio_unlock() // never reachable
> > ext4_finish_bio()
> > ...
> > folio_end_writeback() // never reachable
> >
>
> But aren't you implying that it should from this point on be disallowed
> to call folio_wait_writeback() with the folio lock held? That sounds ...
> a bit wrong.
>
> Note that it is currently explicitly allowed: folio_wait_writeback()
> documents "If the folio is not locked, writeback may start again after
> writeback has finished.". So there is no way to prevent writeback from
Thank you for the information. I was wrong then.
That means we shouldn't allow folio_lock() but try lock, while heading
for writeback end in terms of dependency.
Byungchul
> immediately starting again.
>
> In particular, wouldn't we have to fixup other callsites to make this
> consistent and then VM_WARN_ON_ONCE() assert that in folio_wait_writeback()?
>
> Of course, as we've never seen this deadlock before in practice, I do
> wonder if something else prevents it?
>
> If it's a real issue, I wonder if a trylock on the writeback path could
> be an option.
>
> --
> Cheers
>
> David / dhildenb
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-03 1:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-02 8:16 [RFC] mm/migrate: make sure folio_unlock() before folio_wait_writeback() Byungchul Park
2025-10-02 11:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-02 22:02 ` Hillf Danton
2025-10-03 0:48 ` Byungchul Park
2025-10-03 0:52 ` Byungchul Park
2025-10-07 6:32 ` Yunseong Kim
2025-10-07 7:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-07 7:53 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-13 4:36 ` Byungchul Park
2025-10-13 8:08 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-03 1:02 ` Byungchul Park [this message]
2025-10-03 2:31 ` Byungchul Park
2025-10-03 14:04 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-10-02 11:42 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-02 11:49 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-03 2:08 ` Byungchul Park
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