From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mta1.formilux.org (mta1.formilux.org [51.159.59.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 051DF34BA41 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2025 08:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=51.159.59.229 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1760345794; cv=none; b=JhtlKxy1ZPnH4Q5GRgzExKm9A0ujaAHjSoCB2B4uqVbJsZLfeXUTSb1X5C0APpRYcm4ajtB4V4cmdmIYBM6frYdN6+dE+z3Reg5pkgT2glz5UERJRRD0UCFQzf92J/sL64mXtk2xQadKf+Dhmt8RMyYvrzgklWvU9DAhlIygCTE= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1760345794; c=relaxed/simple; bh=Vto8Q6jWnJAOzXMaA65XJE6pwhuaa0HxizXt1t6yrRk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=NJ+UczsgGlczYmK5UCyXPdge/Q6JMeFlszSFCoSVdHGmTEoAf7LDs8K+SZ0tsy0neTXj6Pkzufn1/4uiBlQBQKNxhhusmVAR70wXxyoBeL3Q/gPmecVQiyX0Oewjd1Sm3nn9M41G59VPTnIWGkREPZ+qIlKNOiHJvLu1qNkTJr4= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=1wt.eu; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=1wt.eu; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=1wt.eu header.i=@1wt.eu header.b=ubI01cdK; arc=none smtp.client-ip=51.159.59.229 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=1wt.eu Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=1wt.eu Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=1wt.eu header.i=@1wt.eu header.b="ubI01cdK" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1wt.eu; s=mail; t=1760345790; bh=NaBZ3lTIHoxpf8SDTx8mgABJPYKuIX4AI6VNsDnj8bg=; h=From:Message-ID:From; b=ubI01cdKPeVW9hBg1X9IJovzk4i09KZidrd3kcaI5dAGghzPTr3/2XG660ErJ9iH9 8E58WeDviPqZ/fxF2q1cXUgQLJFflnZGuG3pKFVELft90XDDYzu8XYDsJaAR7H5aBb cTrxQuc2gG/qE9pRhLJ2qB1KJfH7skmEYJZ82TzA= Received: from 1wt.eu (ded1.1wt.eu [163.172.96.212]) by mta1.formilux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E625C0916; Mon, 13 Oct 2025 10:56:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from willy@localhost) by pcw.home.local (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 59D8uTNo001359; Mon, 13 Oct 2025 10:56:29 +0200 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 10:56:29 +0200 From: Willy Tarreau To: Jiri Slaby Cc: Paolo Bonzini , "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" , Jason Gunthorpe , Mark Brown , Konstantin Ryabitsev , users@kernel.org, tools@linux.kernel.org Subject: Re: In defense of Link (was Re: [b4] initial "b4 dig" to supplant Link: trailers) Message-ID: <20251013085629.GK616@1wt.eu> References: <20251011061351.GB23024@1wt.eu> <20251012232725.GC3938986@ziepe.ca> <20251013084211.GH616@1wt.eu> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: tools@linux.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 10:48:40AM +0200, Jiri Slaby wrote: > > Note that my understanding was that Linus wasn't against the use of > > Link but against its use to point to the series while he hoped to find > > extra information there, making it sort of a misleading use. That's > > why I think that placing another tag for those who value it makes > > sense and should not disturb him. > > Let me cite from the thread :): > > We're not adding garbage that I'm "supposed to ignore". Yeah but he was already angry and pissed off when saying this, that doesn't count. After all this time we all know how it is, and it's human to overreact from time to time when having multiple people in front of you asking for the same thing. Linus is a reasonable person who values efficiency, and if something that costs him nothing can improve his contributors' efficiency and quality, I don't think he would reject it once he's convinced it really has a positive effect overall. The point clearly is not to mix what he wants to visit (e.g. a paper explaining the background for some work) and the link to the submitted series. Willy