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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>,
	users@kernel.org, tools@linux.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [workflows]Re: In defense of Link (was Re: [b4] initial "b4 dig" to supplant Link: trailers)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 18:04:01 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251013150401.GA6599@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251013105936.6ade84bd@gandalf.local.home>

On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 10:59:36AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:39:59 +0300 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> 
> > Using Link: for this will not work well as soon as you need multiple
> > links. Compare the following (edited with made up information) commit
> > message with
> > 
> >     Remove the HAVE_FTRACE_MCOUNT config and use DYNAMIC_FTRACE directly where
> >     applicable. This has shown a 50% improvement in CPU usage.
> >     
> >     Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250703154916.48e3ada7@gandalf.local.home/
> >     Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250703140000.deadbeef@gandalf.local.home/
> > 
> > with
> > 
> >     The HAVE_FTRACE_MCOUNT config was reported as being reduntant ([1]).
> >     Remove it and use DYNAMIC_FTRACE directly where applicable. This has
> >     shown a 50% improvement in CPU usage ([2]).
> >     
> >     [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250703154916.48e3ada7@gandalf.local.home/
> >     [2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250703140000.deadbeef@gandalf.local.home/
> 
> I'm fine with replacing link with normal reference tags for human
> discussion purposes. As I add them manually anyway, that doesn't make a
> difference to me.
> 
> But the main issue here is that if we get rid of the Link: tag to the
> submission, it will totally destroy my workflow. So much so, I'll just stop
> doing the daisy chain references.

My point was that, if we don't use a Link: trailer for human discussion
purpose, we could reclaim its usage for automation. The two problems are
somehow distinct but related, what triggered me was that a large part of
the discussion was based on the assumption Link: should be used for
human links, while I find that usage counterproductive.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-13 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-11  5:59 In defense of Link (was Re: [b4] initial "b4 dig" to supplant Link: trailers) Paolo Bonzini
2025-10-11  6:13 ` Willy Tarreau
2025-10-11  6:33   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-10-15  8:56     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-11  6:39   ` Jiri Slaby
2025-10-11 10:33   ` Mark Brown
2025-10-12 23:27     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-13  8:18       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2025-10-13  8:27         ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-10-13  8:42           ` Willy Tarreau
2025-10-13  8:48             ` Jiri Slaby
2025-10-13  8:56               ` Willy Tarreau
2025-10-13 11:21                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-13 14:26                   ` [workflows]Re: " Steven Rostedt
2025-10-13 14:39                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-13 14:59                       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-13 15:04                         ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2025-10-13 15:44                           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-13 11:03           ` Mark Brown
2025-10-13 11:49             ` James Bottomley
2025-10-13 12:15               ` Mark Brown
2025-10-13 12:29               ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-10-13 12:47                 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-13 13:02                   ` Jürgen Groß
2025-10-15 18:05                   ` Jeff Johnson
2025-10-16 16:47     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-13 12:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-13 17:00   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-13 18:14     ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-10-13 18:53       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-13 20:12         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-13 21:44           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-13 23:22             ` Sasha Levin
2025-10-14  1:29               ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-14  3:39             ` Willy Tarreau
2025-10-16 14:52               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-16 15:08                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-16 15:33                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-13 22:31         ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-10-14  6:47           ` Jiri Slaby
2025-10-13 21:59     ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-10-13 23:09     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-14  1:23       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-14 10:38         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-14 16:56           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-14 18:05             ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-14 18:41               ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-14 19:09                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-10-14 21:10                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-15  7:37                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-15  7:33     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-15  9:38       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-10-15 12:11         ` Mark Brown
2025-10-15 13:50           ` James Bottomley
2025-10-15 13:59             ` Jürgen Groß
2025-10-15 15:08             ` Mark Brown
2025-10-15 15:14             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-15 15:18               ` [workflows]Re: " Steven Rostedt
2025-10-15 15:53                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-15 15:59                   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-15 16:06                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-15 16:15                       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-15 16:43                         ` Mark Brown
2025-10-15 16:15                       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2025-10-15 16:44                         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-15 16:58                           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-10-16  9:28                             ` Matthieu Baerts
2025-10-15 17:01                           ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-10-15 18:40                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-16  7:32                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-16  8:20                           ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2025-10-16 13:58                             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-15 14:37           ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-10-15 14:50         ` [workflows]Re: " Steven Rostedt
2025-10-15 13:51       ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-10-15 14:16         ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-10-15 14:42           ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-10-15 15:03             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-15 14:55           ` [workflows]Re: " Steven Rostedt
2025-10-15 17:34           ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-10-15 14:51         ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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