Re: Replacing Link trailers

[Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>]

On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 01:34:05PM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 12:20 PM Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 at 12:07, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> > >
> > > This was the *original* definition that I proposed, which was vetoed by Linus because it didn't provide a clickable experience.
> >
> > Yeah., I still don't believe that Message-ID is any better than a link.
> >
> > And the only believable argument *for* this all is the "one-click experience".
> >
> > Because I still believe that "if you use tools, then 'b4 dig' is
> > better than *any* pointless tag that just is entirely redundant and
> > only cuts down on the available information".
> >
> > So the one-click argument actually resonates with me, even if that is
> > very obviously not the workflow I use. At least I *understand* that
> > argument.
> >
> > All the other arguments seem just disingenuous in that they literally
> > give less useful information than "b4 dig" does.
> 
> Wow, I hadn't heard of "b4 dig" and it doesn't appear to have landed
> yet. ...but I searched and it was easy to find a reference. I'll check
> it out. Oh, it's using AI. I guess my suggestion that we should use AI
> to solve this problem was more on point than I realized. ;-) ;-) ;-)
> 
> OK, I found Sasha's RFC [1].

I think the one discussed in this mail thread is the implementation from
Konstantin, available from
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/utils/b4/b4.git/.

> The first thing I note is that "b4 dig" takes a Message-Id as an
> argument. So now I'm confused. I must be misunderstanding the problem
> we're trying to solve with the "Link:" tag?!
> 
> From how I've used it, the "Link" tag allows you to start with a
> commit hash in Linux and then go from there to a mailing list post
> (and/or Message-Id). ...and then it was suggested that we don't need a
> "Link" tag (or anything containing "Message-Id") because "b4 dig"
> solves the problem. ...but then "b4 dig" needs a Message-Id to work?
> Eh?
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250909163214.3241191-1-sashal@kernel.org/

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Regards,

Laurent Pinchart