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From: Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>
To: Hao Jia <jiahao.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: "Valentin Schneider" <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	"Ben Segall" <bsegall@google.com>,
	"K Prateek Nayak" <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Chengming Zhou" <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	"Josh Don" <joshdon@google.com>, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Vincent Guittot" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"Xi Wang" <xii@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Juri Lelli" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	"Dietmar Eggemann" <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Mel Gorman" <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"Chuyi Zhou" <zhouchuyi@bytedance.com>,
	"Jan Kiszka" <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"Florian Bezdeka" <florian.bezdeka@siemens.com>,
	"Songtang Liu" <liusongtang@bytedance.com>,
	"Chen Yu" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	"Matteo Martelli" <matteo.martelli@codethink.co.uk>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Prevent cfs_rq from being unthrottled with zero runtime_remaining
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 19:46:03 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251016114603.GC32@bytedance> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eaedc19e-8647-ab3b-c09b-a8602d193011@gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 07:04:30PM +0800, Hao Jia wrote:
> On 2025/10/16 17:23, Aaron Lu wrote:
... ...
> > With the above said, this shouldn't matter anymore but just out of
> > curiosity: did you notice this by inspecting the code or actually
> > hitting the warning about using an outdated rq clock?
> > 
> > Per my understanding, most likely: __assign_cfs_rq_runtime() in
> > throttle_cfs_rq(cfs_rq) will grant 1ns runtime to cfs_rq so it won't
> > reach tg_throttle_down(). The comment I added above that if condition
> > is kind of misleading though.
> 
> 
> I did encounter this once.
> 
> perhaps in the following corner case:
> 
> If cfs_b->quota is set low (and quota is set at each level), and there are a
> large number of CPUs.
> 
> After tg_set_cfs_bandwidth()->__refill_cfs_bandwidth_runtime(), we release
> cfs_b->lock. cfs_b->runtime might be consumed by cfs_rq on other CPUs.

Ah I see. So I suppose in your setup, tasks are already started and then
quota is set.

> 
> Then, on one online CPU, we can't get 1ns runtime via
> __assign_cfs_rq_runtime(). Current limiting is triggered on this CPU, and
> tg_throttle_down()->rq_clock_pelt() is called.
> 

Got it, thanks for the info!

      reply	other threads:[~2025-10-16 11:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-29  7:46 [PATCH] sched/fair: Prevent cfs_rq from being unthrottled with zero runtime_remaining Aaron Lu
2025-09-29  9:34 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-29 10:55   ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-30  7:56   ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-30  8:58     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-30  9:27       ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-30 11:07       ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-30 12:39         ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-30 13:38         ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-01 11:58           ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-14  7:43 ` Hao Jia
2025-10-14  9:11   ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-14 11:01     ` Hao Jia
2025-10-14 11:50       ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-15  1:43         ` Hao Jia
2025-10-15  1:48           ` Hao Jia
2025-10-15  2:51           ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-15  6:31             ` Hao Jia
2025-10-15  8:40               ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-15 10:21                 ` Hao Jia
2025-10-16  6:54                   ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-16  7:49                     ` Hao Jia
2025-10-16  9:23                       ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-16 11:04                         ` Hao Jia
2025-10-16 11:46                           ` Aaron Lu [this message]

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