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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
Cc: brauner@kernel.org, jack@suse.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] fs: add predicts based on nd->depth
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2025 03:32:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251111033226.GP2441659@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251110165901.1491476-1-mjguzik@gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 05:59:01PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote:

> Given these results:
> 1. terminate_walk() is called towards the end of the lookup. I failed
>    run into a case where it has any depth to clean up. For now predict
>    it does not.

Easy - just have an error while resolving a nested symlink in the middle
of pathname.  On success it will have zero nd->depth, of course.

> 2. legitimize_links() is also called towards the end of lookup and most
>    of the time there s 0 depth. Patch consumers to avoid calling into it
>    in that case.

On transition from lazy to non-lazy mode on cache miss, ->d_revalidate()
saying "dunno, try in non-lazy mode", etc.

That can happen inside a nested symlink as well as on the top level, but
the latter is more common on most of the loads.

> 3. walk_component() is typically called with WALK_MORE and zero depth,
>    checked in that order. Check depth first and predict it is 0.

Does it give a measurable effect?

> 4. link_path_walk() predicts not dealing with a symlink, but the other
>    part of symlink handling fails to make the same predict. Add it.

Unconvincing, that - one is "we have a component; what are the odds of that
component being a symlink?", another - "we have reached the end of pathname
or the end of nested symlink; what are the odds of the latter being the case?"

I can believe that answers to both questions are fairly low, but they are
not the same.  I'd expect the latter to be considerably higher than the
former.

> -	if (unlikely(!legitimize_links(nd)))
> +	if (unlikely(nd->depth && !legitimize_links(nd)))

I suspect that 
	if (unlikely(nd->depth) && !legitimize_links(nd))
might be better...

> -	if (unlikely(!legitimize_links(nd)))
> +	if (unlikely(nd->depth && !legitimize_links(nd)))
>  		goto out2;

Ditto.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-11  3:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-10 16:59 [PATCH v4] fs: add predicts based on nd->depth Mateusz Guzik
2025-11-11  3:32 ` Al Viro [this message]
2025-11-11 18:00   ` Mateusz Guzik

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